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Re: Evolution or not? [Re: Husky] #8359181
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So do you believe in evolution or Creation?

Re: Evolution or not? [Re: Husky] #8359251
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^^^^^^
"In the beginning God created...." I really have no idea how, but it is really sporting to speculate.

....and the earth was formless and void. Or the Hebrew translation of this goes something like "....the earth was chaos, and empty..".
This was in the beginning. This could have been millions or billions of years before God created life. I'm not saying that I necessarily believe this, but it is possible to hold this view, and still believe that God is the Creator, and cares about us.


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Re: Evolution or not? [Re: Husky] #8359274
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What's that thumping sound?

Re: Evolution or not? [Re: Husky] #8359279
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I'd Rather Live a life Good in God's Eyes and die and be Wrong

Than Not believe and die ,Then find out I was wrong.


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Re: Evolution or not? [Re: 330-Trapper] #8359292
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Originally Posted by 330-Trapper
I'd Rather Live a life Good in God's Eyes and die and be Wrong

Than Not believe and die ,Then find out I was wrong.



Ahhhh, I was waiting for that to pop up! Good old Pascal's wager. A very old religious ploy. Nice try.

Re: Evolution or not? [Re: Husky] #8359301
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Re: Evolution or not? [Re: Husky] #8359309
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Evolution does not exclude God. Both are compatible with each other. I've never understood why you would think that a belief in God would exclude evolution and a belief in evolution excludes God. There are examples all around you to prove both!

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Re: Evolution or not? [Re: Husky] #8359317
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Is the belief that God created a prerequisite to God's grace?

Re: Evolution or not? [Re: waggler] #8359322
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Originally Posted by waggler
^^^^^^
"In the beginning God created...." I really have no idea how, but it is really sporting to speculate.

....and the earth was formless and void. Or the Hebrew translation of this goes something like "....the earth was chaos, and empty..".
This was in the beginning. This could have been millions or billions of years before God created life. I'm not saying that I necessarily believe this, but it is possible to hold this view, and still believe that God is the Creator, and cares about us.


If you continue reading you will realize this idea won’t work. Read the entire chapter of Genesis 1. It clearly shows that Gideon created the world, and everything in it in 6 days.

Re: Evolution or not? [Re: Husky] #8359325
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Re: Evolution or not? [Re: Tommyran] #8359328
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Originally Posted by Tommyran
Originally Posted by 330-Trapper
I'd Rather Live a life Good in God's Eyes and die and be Wrong

Than Not believe and die ,Then find out I was wrong.



Ahhhh, I was waiting for that to pop up! Good old Pascal's wager. A very old religious ploy. Nice try.

Nice try nothing.If we believe and are wrong we all rot in the ground.But if those that believe are right then the others will not be rotting in the ground.As far as I'm concerned I have nothing to loose.The other person has everything to loose.Your choice.


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Re: Evolution or not? [Re: Husky] #8359329
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And Noah lived 900 years. In fact I believe he is still drawing social security!

Re: Evolution or not? [Re: Husky] #8359331
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Also a question for those who believe in evolution: where did music come from? And why is it here? Don’t tell me the notes and tones and pitches evolved on their own!

Re: Evolution or not? [Re: Husky] #8359333
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I highly recommend you watch a series called “The Truth Project”. It is a series that goes into detail about the differences between Creation and evolution.

Re: Evolution or not? [Re: Spike369] #8359335
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Originally Posted by Spike369
And Noah lived 900 years. In fact I believe he is still drawing social security!

Maybe evolving from a immortal being to a mortal being took time? Just a thought.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/time-flowed-five-times-slower-shortly-after-the-big-bang/

Re: Evolution or not? [Re: Husky] #8359336
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I believe in creation but does that discount evolution? I think things evolve to promote their existence. Humans are ever evolving, why wouldn’t everything else?

Re: Evolution or not? [Re: Husky] #8359337
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The goal of evolution is to eventually reach perfection. If someone was already immortal, why would they want to become a mortal being?

Re: Evolution or not? [Re: BvrRetriever] #8359338
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Originally Posted by BvrRetriever
I believe in creation but does that discount evolution? I think things evolve to promote their existence. Humans are ever evolving, why wouldn’t everything else?


The correct term would be progressing.

Re: Evolution or not? [Re: Husky] #8359341
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My bad…I hope we progress to the point that we persist.

Re: Evolution or not? [Re: Husky] #8359345
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Originally Posted by Husky
Originally Posted by waggler
^^^^^^
"In the beginning God created...." I really have no idea how, but it is really sporting to speculate.

....and the earth was formless and void. Or the Hebrew translation of this goes something like "....the earth was chaos, and empty..".
This was in the beginning. This could have been millions or billions of years before God created life. I'm not saying that I necessarily believe this, but it is possible to hold this view, and still believe that God is the Creator, and cares about us.


If you continue reading you will realize this idea won’t work. Read the entire chapter of Genesis 1. It clearly shows that Gideon created the world, and everything in it in 6 days.

Read the first couple of verses of Genesis again, slowly, and without any preconceived bias. There could have been a whole lot of time between the "beginnig", a period of chaos, before day one.


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