Re: Logging Rope?
[Re: Donnersurvivor]
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03/09/25 12:32 PM
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Samson is my go to for all ropes, 150' gives some room for error. 1/2 Samson stable braid should work for most applications, get a throw ball and line and leave the ladder in the garage.
A Shackel or large nut works for a weight in a pinch. If he is only doing one tree he may not want a throw line. Now if he wants more gear get a throw ball and a big shot sling shot to launch that throw ball.
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Re: Logging Rope?
[Re: Moosetrot]
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03/09/25 12:35 PM
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Be sure you watch some YouTube videos so you can learn how to do it....of course I'm being a bit sarcastic. Ropes used to direct tree falling have a very high failure rate. I've never known a logger to use a rope.
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Re: Logging Rope?
[Re: waggler]
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03/09/25 12:43 PM
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Be sure you watch some YouTube videos so you can learn how to do it....of course I'm being a bit sarcastic. Ropes used to direct tree falling have a very high failure rate. I've never known a logger to use a rope. We use ropes to fell trees daily, it definitely adds a safety factor. Loggers often don't have as tight of drop windows as we do. We may drop one large tree per day and everything needs to go perfectly, loggers can drop a large tree before their morning coffee is gone and if it doesn't go perfectly it won't go bailing through the neighbors house. Safety is another factor, if you have a rope in a tree you don't need to be anywhere near the tree when it's falling. Notch, backcut with a wedge, exit the area and pull the tree over gently. Of course you can screw things up with a rope in the tree, pull to hard and you'll see some wild barber chairs... its a tool, use it responsibly.
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Re: Logging Rope?
[Re: Moosetrot]
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03/09/25 12:49 PM
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last time I needed a good pull line , we all went to our trucks and started pulling out 30 foot tow traps and chains and such and started joining them together , you probably know a few you could borrow. didn't take long and we had enough that the tractor was well out of the way of the falling tee the synthetic winch line might be a good place to look for not all that expensive of a line that will take a lot of weight. if you want static line for tree work , Baileys online is going to be the place to find it https://www.baileysonline.com/teufelberger-1-2-multiline-ii-3-strand-bull-rope.htmlthose who climb may have a better suggestion to the exact line to by https://www.baileysonline.com/samson-1-2-tenex-tec-12-strand-rope-per-foot.htmlif you or your son know any fiber pullers and you can get the 2000 pound bull line they pull the fiber with it is a flat 1/2 inch strap material my son has a friend who has given us some , I need ask him if we can get a longer run so far it is mostly like 25 foot sections. I have done very little pulling , and a lot more wedging them over all depends how much holding wood you have how much they are leaning and how dead they are. Popple is a stupid heavy wood when green and paper light when dry but it is also not so strong when dry
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Re: Logging Rope?
[Re: Moosetrot]
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03/09/25 01:29 PM
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I have dropped many trees from small to very large, but all have been in the woods where being very accurate was not a crucial as some of these around my house, neighbors' fences, etc. That is why I am going to be using a pulling rope.
The popples I need to take out are all dead and relatively small but big enough they would be a problem if they came down on anything. There will be more that will need to go in the future. They migrated in when my neighbor planted some fast-growing popple along the property line. I left them as I figured they would last for a while but I never thought they would die so fast and easy. Most are in my back half-acre woods but some are along the property line and too close to my house for comfort and easy felling.
Moosetrot since you have several to do look up big shot throw ball launcher. Basically they sell different weight bases with mettel ring you attach a thin Polly line to called a throw ball. you can throw it by hand but the big shot is a sling shot that goes on a runner pole and makes it easier to get your throw ball where you need it.. then you tie the polly line onto your bull rope (pulling rope) and pull it into place. typically I then use a running bow line knot making a strong knot that will bench down on the loop up on the tree on one end then I run the other end out to whatever I'm pulling it with. maybe just people. don't bounce or tug on the rope keep a steady pull on it. If you tug or let off the going back can snap the tree off and cause problems.
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Re: Logging Rope?
[Re: Moosetrot]
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03/09/25 01:30 PM
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I have dropped many trees from small to very large, but all have been in the woods where being very accurate was not a crucial as some of these around my house, neighbors' fences, etc. That is why I am going to be using a pulling rope.
The popples I need to take out are all dead and relatively small but big enough they would be a problem if they came down on anything. There will be more that will need to go in the future. They migrated in when my neighbor planted some fast-growing popple along the property line. I left them as I figured they would last for a while but I never thought they would die so fast and easy. Most are in my back half-acre woods but some are along the property line and too close to my house for comfort and easy felling.
Moosetrot you might consider a rental lift , hardware store here rents one that will get you up 45 feet , then bring it down in chunks , it really limits your fall zone. I was looking at that for a huge hackberry overhanging my house , I called around found a guy with a tree service he works Sundays with his wife for side cash , for 450 dollars he dropped it all in about 6-8 foot lengths and I had a huge mess of cleaning it up but it was down for a little more than the lift would have cost me for the rental.
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Re: Logging Rope?
[Re: forestman3]
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03/09/25 01:34 PM
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These are nice used to use one now and then when I did line clearance keeps a nice steady pull as long as your are easy working the come along. But the rope is not as strong as my bull lines.
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Re: Logging Rope?
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I have dropped many trees from small to very large, but all have been in the woods where being very accurate was not a crucial as some of these around my house, neighbors' fences, etc. That is why I am going to be using a pulling rope.
The popples I need to take out are all dead and relatively small but big enough they would be a problem if they came down on anything. There will be more that will need to go in the future. They migrated in when my neighbor planted some fast-growing popple along the property line. I left them as I figured they would last for a while but I never thought they would die so fast and easy. Most are in my back half-acre woods but some are along the property line and too close to my house for comfort and easy felling.
Moosetrot you might consider a rental lift , hardware store here rents one that will get you up 45 feet , then bring it down in chunks , it really limits your fall zone. I was looking at that for a huge hackberry overhanging my house , I called around found a guy with a tree service he works Sundays with his wife for side cash , for 450 dollars he dropped it all in about 6-8 foot lengths and I had a huge mess of cleaning it up but it was down for a little more than the lift would have cost me for the rental. They make a tow able that's 55' but it won't reach that high since it has to sit out away from the base of the tree .
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