Thanks for the profound post. I'm sure the Canadians will take your well researched and thought out advice. Actually, my favorite Party was the Alaska Independence Party. They wanted to secede from lower 48 brilliance.

The quote posted here was not from Mark Carney’s book. It is from a review of the book by Peter Foster who was critical of Carney’s book.

Shakey,,, BC had a strong independence movement in the 80’s,,before Alberta

Everyone on the west coast, involved in the fishing industry is completely fed up with Ottawa calling the shots,,have been for awhile

BC is one of the highest taxed provinces in Canada,,,and get’s crumbs in return

The cost of living is outrageous

The choice to continue being free range tax slave, or haveing potentially the lowest taxes in North America,,,,

Not saying it will happen but BC cutting ties with Ottawa is not laughable at all

Prove it

BC.....Bring Cash.
The fishermen might be ticked off, but what's their percentage of the population? The separatists in BC have to deal with the south west corner of the province where all the votes are. Alberta's a long shot, that leaves BC separating a distant speck on the horizon........but I've been wrong before.
That one time when I was 12 years old. I thought I was wrong, but I was right......so I thought wrong.

It’s not the south west part of BC

It’s a small part of Vancouver where no one can afford to buy a house anymore,,,

I think you’re wrong,,,,,but it’s not going to happen anytime soon

To the Alberta issue as I’ve said, if you do anything stay independent. Do NOT join the US. Think it out before hand and construct a better government than you now have and a better path forward. People will agree with the prospect of a positive future more so than constant hammering of the existing bad.
I think better representation is the key. Tweak our electoral college model or find something better. We in America need to do the same one day, times change, crooks learn. Vast geographical countries are becoming increasingly too diverse for a one size fits all approach. You may be the first in a long line to start the fragmentation and you won’t be the last.

Trumps point is western Canada is falling deeper and deeper into hole created by your east. We have those same problems plus our current runaway judicial system. Separate if you will, stay independent and cut your own trade deals.

The issue of ports has been brought up. Oil pipelines can be built from AB to our gulf states, direct rail lines and expressways can be built as well.
Again those can be worked out, there is always a way.

I wish you folks luck.

Osky

I believe President Donald Trump will lay off on the Canada the 51st state rhetoric, now that he got carney elected with it. He will likely work with the leadership in Alberta and Saskatchewan, to help them succeed from Canada. He will offer them a very favored trade partnership as a reward. The people in those two provinces will become much more affluent when they leave Canada. and reap the benefits of their resources. Eventually, it will start making sense to the people, in those now free provinces, that there is a big advantage in being part of the US. Within 10 years, they will likely join, which will benefit all of us.

Keith

Here's a new podcast from GBN news with new information and some "what if".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oYpvtvMKLM

Maybe someone can get the picture to show please, I just can't get it to work. Thanks.

Keith

Some folks see a meme, and believe them. Spjones asked me to prove that his meme was false. No matter what evidence I post, I’m sure he won’t say he was wrong. But I’ll do it anyways.

https://www.thecanadianpressnews.ca...dc71d8a-5607-5fd1-8fe4-689168af6a9c.html

https://factcheck.afp.com/doc.afp.com.422C8CP

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/canada-mark-carney-western-society/

I was wrong big brownie

Strong work on the fact check

Separation talk will be happening long after I’m dead.

At least the internet talk of it, I’ve yet to actually ever hear anyone speak those words.

Today's headline, "Danielle Smith's reform is nudging Alberta separation vote from 'if' toward 'when'"

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calg...-referendum-threshold-analysis-1.7524320

Keith

They see the guys on Canadiangunutz & Tman are discussing it, so they figure now’s the time to push it……lol

I keep hearing about all of the young people in favour (1in 4 they say) but my kids, 21 and 19, soon to be power engineers, say they too, like me know of none personally. lol

But David Krayden, a “journalist “ on YouTube who also claims Mark Carney wants to get rid of cars in 5 years says so so it’s gotta be true.

CNN Canada aka. Click bait is back. Lol do you ever read what you write?

Keith is Danielle Smiths main source for the goings on here. He’s dialed in on the pulse of Canada.

I know Alberta pays a heavy tax to Ottawa each year for the production of fossil fuels. Alberta also has the highest GDP for Canada. Does Saskatchewan produce gas and oil? Is Manitoba mostly farming and tourism?

Looks to me that with Canada's different political system you folks could become independent much easier than what is "possible" down here. Both Illinois and Oregon have several counties each that would like to become part of a neighboring state. Even if they could get enough votes, it still would need to be ratified by each state involved for it to happen. Neither Oregon nor Illinois being hard core Democrat would vote in their respective state Congresses to allow that to be ratified. Too much tax income lost.

Cananda looks like it only needs a number over 60% of voters in favor to have it happen. Am I missing something?

I doubt there will be a split from Canada for any province, but it might get some concessions from Ottawa for the west. About as much chance of Canada letting go of Alberta as Diagalon becoming a place.