Re: Debate
[Re: Giant Sage]
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05/02/25 08:18 AM
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debate, Sets right between murder and deceit in Romans 1:29 In reference to men that God has given up to a reprobate mind. ![[Linked Image]](https://trapperman.com/forum/attachments/usergals/2025/05/full-49774-256645-20250502_053200_resized.jpg) Just saying. looking at the original greek: That word is translated strife 4 times, contention 2 times, debate 2 times, variance 1 time. I think it would be fair to paraphrase it as a troll, or someone who causes strife or contention by their nature. Note that in the new testament there is quite a bit of respectful debate as they sorted things out. Jude 1:3 says to "contend earnestly for the faith". It all fits together neatly if you understand we can contend for something without having. a contentous nature.
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Re: Debate
[Re: Shakeyjake]
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05/02/25 08:20 AM
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To forbid debate is in Mark Carney book…..lol. Don’t think, just do as your told. Lol, it's easy for me to not do as I'm told, and not think at the same time.  Just ask my dear wife. 
Christ is King
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Re: Debate
[Re: danny clifton]
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05/02/25 08:32 AM
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Yes sir
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There can be no debate on the origin of the universe. Its 100% conjecture. People simply choose a belief. How do you debate an unknown? We have had many on here before by presenting evidence that supports one view or the other
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Re: Debate
[Re: CoyoteCowboy]
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05/02/25 08:36 AM
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Mine doesn't have debate in it.
What came first? The chicken or the egg?
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Re: Debate
[Re: Giant Sage]
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05/02/25 09:10 AM
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To forbid debate is in Mark Carney book…..lol. Don’t think, just do as your told. Lol, it's easy for me to not do as I'm told, and not think at the same time.  Just ask my dear wife.  That probably can be said of most of us!
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Re: Debate
[Re: elsmasho82]
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05/02/25 09:25 AM
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The whole Bible is harsh. “Unclean! Unclean!” If a woman on her cycle is anywhere near you Nothing wrong with that. Gives everyone fair warning. Would be nice to include the week before as well.
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Re: Debate
[Re: BandB]
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05/02/25 09:59 AM
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The whole Bible is harsh. “Unclean! Unclean!” If a woman on her cycle is anywhere near you Nothing wrong with that. Gives everyone fair warning. Would be nice to include the week before as well. I believe that sums it up. 
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Re: Debate
[Re: Husky]
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05/02/25 11:03 AM
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I am far more interested in dialogue than debate. Dialogue in a public internet forum is nearly impossible. It all becomes debates between groups who have their minds closed to everything except their own views (I have my own views, so I understand the temptation). Dialogue involves open minds and open hearts and usually some relational foundation. Arguing with near strangers on the internet seems pretty fruitless to me. At least, the fruit I see bursting forth isn't usually the fruit of the Spirit.
If you care to know my views on this subject and others, you're welcome to comb through my previous posts. Religious discussions tend to drag me out of the hole that I live in, and sometimes I feel like I might have a nugget of wisdom to offer, but I don't think I have much to add here that hasn't been said before.
And for what it's worth, elsmasho is right. The Bible is not just cruel; it's gut-wrenching, heart-breaking, disgusting, unfair, bloody, shocking, appalling, and extremely R-rated. Nothing would make me happier than to actually sit down and have an open dialogue about all of this with everyone, but that isn't going to happen here. All will turn to debate. I will restrain myself to saying only two things about it. First, the cruelty is an accurate depiction of the human condition. Take a look around; the world is messed up. Second, the culmination of the Bible's story is about a man who sought out the unclean and the outcasts, touched them, healed them, and ate meals with them.
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Re: Debate
[Re: danny clifton]
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05/02/25 11:13 AM
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There can be no debate on the origin of the universe. Its 100% conjecture. People simply choose a belief. How do you debate an unknown? But Danny, their undebatable, irrefutable proof is the words printed in their specific version of the one of a great many, versions of the Bible, correctly interpreted in their absolutely perfect personal interpretation. How can you refute that? You're obviously unenlightened and very wrong.  Keith
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Re: Debate
[Re: KeithC]
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05/02/25 11:39 AM
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Yes sir
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There can be no debate on the origin of the universe. Its 100% conjecture. People simply choose a belief. How do you debate an unknown? But Danny, their undebatable, irrefutable proof is the words printed in their specific version of the one of a great many, versions of the Bible, correctly interpreted in their absolutely perfect personal interpretation. How can you refute that? You're obviously unenlightened and very wrong.  Keith Keith don't take him up on the challenge, the debate hasn't even started and your taking shots at the person instead of the topic. Never a position of strength in a debate.
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Re: Debate
[Re: Yes sir]
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05/02/25 11:43 AM
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Husky are u wanting to do this on public forum or though pm? Preferably thru public forum, but it seems my idea is t going to work. So I guess thru PM.
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Re: Debate
[Re: Husky]
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05/02/25 12:02 PM
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Yes sir
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Husky are u wanting to do this on public forum or though pm? Preferably thru public forum, but it seems my idea is t going to work. So I guess thru PM. Whats the purpose or goal of this debate Why are you wanting it?
Last edited by Yes sir; 05/02/25 12:03 PM.
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