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Re: Debate [Re: DelawareRob] #8396658
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Originally Posted by DelawareRob
Originally Posted by elsmasho82
The whole Bible is harsh.
“Unclean! Unclean!” If a woman on her cycle is anywhere near you


Oh no! A menstrual cycle!

Scary!

Smash I didn't know you were Jewish? You sure are missing out when it comes to bacon.

Re: Debate [Re: OhioBoy] #8396664
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Originally Posted by OhioBoy
Ok lets cover about how old things on earth are. Religion puts it at about 3,000 years or so there abouts right??


Only off by about 4.5 or so billion years. Lol


Stop over cooking your meat! It isn’t gamey, it’s over cooked!

Gordon Ramsey, maybe…
Re: Debate [Re: Husky] #8396669
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That was kinda my point Rob. He corrected me by saying earth was 6000 yo.

Originally Posted by Husky
Originally Posted by OhioBoy
Ok lets cover about how old things on earth are. Religion puts it at about 3,000 years or so there abouts right??


~6,000 years.

Do you want to do the debate?


Re: Debate [Re: Husky] #8396672
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You asked a question. I told you what religion puts the earths age at. That’s what happens in a debate if I’m not mistaken.

Re: Debate [Re: Husky] #8396675
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Yeah no thats right. I knew you would say that bc i wanted to ask you how you explain arrow heads being 10’s of thousands of years old?

Re: Debate [Re: Husky] #8396694
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How do we know they are tens of thousands of years old?

Re: Debate [Re: Husky] #8396716
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So you don't believe in carbon dating?

Re: Debate [Re: Husky] #8396729
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Maybe God made carbon dating make it appear it was that old, as a test of your faith, or for “His” entertainment with these debates. He could create fossils and geology. If he created all things, then he could make things appear as old as he wants them to appear. That’s the catch.


I’ve been sayin yes sir all day at work, I’ve been sayin yes ma’am at home…
Re: Debate [Re: Husky] #8396730
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I guess yeah you can make up anything and believe anything you want to sure.

Re: Debate [Re: Husky] #8396733
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Husky asked for the debate to be one on one so.lets leave it between Hisky and Ohio

Re: Debate [Re: white17] #8396746
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Originally Posted by white17
Maybe. I can't think of encountering any information on that. I suppose it is possible that photons can be absorbed by dark energy or be transformed back into matter before they have traveled far enough to be observed but that discussion and the mechanics involved is way beyond my pay grade

EDIT: Maybe you are referring to the Doppler red shift ???

Couldn't light just be filered after a far enough distance?
Just looking from a KISS perspective.


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Re: Debate [Re: OhioBoy] #8396750
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Originally Posted by OhioBoy
So you don't believe in carbon dating?


No. Carbon dating has been proven to be an ineffective method to age rocks and other materials.

Re: Debate [Re: Husky] #8396751
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For an example: a newly formed lava rock which people had seen formed and thereby knew how old it was, was sent to a lab for carbon dating. The lab tested it using carbon dating, and found the rock to be millions of years old. There are many other examples, but that is just one.

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An atheist, a cross fitter, and a vegan walk into a bar. How do I know? They all told me what they were within one minute.

Re: Debate [Re: Husky] #8396818
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Originally Posted by Husky
For an example: a newly formed lava rock which people had seen formed and thereby knew how old it was, was sent to a lab for carbon dating. The lab tested it using carbon dating, and found the rock to be millions of years old. There are many other examples, but that is just one.

Except there is no such thing as a "new" rock. The elements of it's make up are "millions of years old".

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I'm not claiming any dates, but the only way any dating method can be proven as fact is by observation. Otherwise it's just theary. Any thing that goes beyond historical observation or record can't be more than theory or speculation.
Unless it's in existence. But putting a date on any thing outside of observation is theary. Even with record's it takes a certain amount of faith. Otherwise we would have to take historical records as factual.


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Originally Posted by trapdog1
Originally Posted by Husky
For an example: a newly formed lava rock which people had seen formed and thereby knew how old it was, was sent to a lab for carbon dating. The lab tested it using carbon dating, and found the rock to be millions of years old. There are many other examples, but that is just one.

Except there is no such thing as a "new" rock. The elements of it's make up are "millions of years old".

If it was melted rock billions of years old why wouldnt it still be considered that old even though it was just spewed out? Sand isnt technically a rock but it is the remains of eroded sandstone millions of years old.

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Re: Debate [Re: Husky] #8396900
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You can't carbon date a rock...it has to be something carbon based that was once alive. it's measuring the carbon decay.

Re: Debate [Re: Husky] #8396903
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Originally Posted by Husky
For an example: a newly formed lava rock which people had seen formed and thereby knew how old it was, was sent to a lab for carbon dating. The lab tested it using carbon dating, and found the rock to be millions of years old. There are many other examples, but that is just one.


Somebody is poorly informed about how carbon 14 dating works. It is mathematical in nature (measuring the known decay rate of the isotope), so it has a maximum dating range of about 60,000 years. The only errors that can occur with this method is if the sample was collected incorrectly or that one overlooks the tests age limitations.

There are various other techniques to test older materials.


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Re: Debate [Re: Husky] #8396906
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As they're poorly informed on that, what else are they poorly informed about.?? cool

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