What is the probability of the outer layer of the blastocyst forming a hollow ball of cells that forms after fertilization and contributes to the formation of the placenta. The placenta is a vital organ that develops during pregnancy, providing nutrients and oxygen to the developing fetus while removing waste products. If the mothers blood or babies blood mixes the mothers body detects it as a foreign object and aborts it. Everything is so precise what is the probability that it is just accident and not from design ?

The probability of the placenta forming is 100% unless the mother has health issues. The probability of it not having a designer and just being an accident is 0%.

Most believe that babies are a gift from God. Its less complicated to explain things sometimes that babies magically come from under a cabbage leaf or the stork brings them. Babies don't just magically appear but is given from God thru a natural process. That natural process is from the creature side of the equation. God has the design and is the creator. Can we agree on that?

Sounds like divine intervention.

Amen Sage!

Hey White, do you have a response to these?

You evidently have a different understanding of probabilities than I do.
If you have two possible outcomes of an event...........designer or accident.........it is mathematically impossible for the probability of either one being 100% or 0%............unless one outcome is physically impossible.

If you flip a coin there are only two possible outcomes so the probability of either outcome is 50%. I guarantee you the coin is not going to land and stand on edge nor is it going to land heads 100% of the time.

If something is possible..........it also has some potential probability. It may be small but it is not zero.

Overall my response is do your own work and post your own thoughts. Copy/paste only reinforces your own biases.

If you aren't willing to put in the time and effort to learn something, why would you expect others to do it for you ?


But I will address one of your questions from AFG..... There are no population 3 stars because they have been destroyed over time. We do have at least one population 2 star. The Methuselah star. Look it up

That’s my point, White. There is no possibility of the placenta not having a designer. And when an outcome is not possible the probability is 0%. So that’s why my answer is 0%.

Evolution is the process that God created to guide the design of the placenta.

Are you going to answer my question about where this doctrine of the strict literal Bible interpretation comes from? Did Jesus say that the scriptures should be interpreted literally? If not, then who did?

That is only your opinion concerning a "designer".


Also you are now trying to change the original issue. The terms "possibility" and "probability" are not interchangeable.

You first said .................."The probability of the placenta forming is 100% " but now you are saying................."There is no possibility."........... So you must believe that there is no "possible" way that organisms have adapted over time to facilitate reproduction by the development of a placenta ?

What about critters that reproduce by binary fission ? Is that the product of a designer too ? Or is that natural adaptation ? Or something else ?

How does that reinforce my biases? Both of us are bias towards our own side. You are bias in favor of evolution and I am bias in favor of Creation. Isn’t that to be expected in a debate?

I believe that binary fission is a product of a designer.

Regardless of the fact the information I posted is copied and pasted, what is your argument against it?

Sorry I haven’t responded to you yet.

One reason we should take the Bible literally is because Jesus took it literally. Whenever Jesus quoted from the Old Testament, it was always clear that He believed in its literal interpretation. As an example, when Jesus was tempted by Satan in Luke 4, He answered by quoting the Old Testament. If God’s commands in Deuteronomy 8:3, 6:13, and 6:16 were not literal, Jesus would not have used them and they would have been powerless to stop Satan’s mouth, which they certainly did.

Does this suffice?

I have given you plenty that supports my view of the things. I can look at the night sky and the things we see here on Earth. I can do the math, some of it anyway, I can understand the physics and the chemistry that has been worked out by people a lot smarter than I am. I can read the theories and see the observational data and the math that proves that data. Does it answer everything ? No. But it is making progress every year. Will we know all the answers in our lifetimes ? No,probably not but within a couple more centuries I believe we will.

To me, all of those things that we KNOW as fact........are a lot more believable than the writings of people 2000 years ago about things they neither saw nor understood. They had neither the abilities nor the equipment to investigate the thing they were writing about.

I am sure you've heard of Crater Lake in Oregon. Maybe you've even been there. You may know that it sits in a caldera of the ancient volcano, Mount Mazama. Mazama erupted and formed the caldera about 7700 years ago. ( I know that can't be if the Earth is only 6000 years old) and the snow and rain created the lake we see today.

At that time, there were people living near Mount Mazama , the ancestors of the Klamath people of northern CA and southern Oregon.

It may surprise you to learn that they have an oral history of that eruption. That history tells the tale of the god of the sky, SKELL doing battle with the god of the underworld..LLAO. That made sense to them as they knew nothing of vulcanism or plate tectonics. But it explained what happened and why......in their minds.

That may seem rather primitive or simplistic or naive to us today but it seems to me to make just as much sense as Genesis does to you