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Re: How many of you trap… [Re: Providence Farm] #8405078
05/17/25 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Providence Farm
I don't trap or bother skinning out for fur anymore. I never learned to finish and get good at putin fur up. I'm very limited on time and not spending 35 mins fleshing out a $2 coon have one look hood then the next fur falls out of.. It's not worth my time messing with at this time even though it's a skill I really want to learn. I skinned and froze everything for years throwing it out from time to time with the idea I would find some to pay that would put it up for me and maybe take the time to teach the boys how to do it right. I thought with low fur price complaining guys would Like geting paid more to flesh and board alone than selling their finished catch. Well I gave up finding anyone to pay.

So now I trap to reduce predators and keep population healthy and toss them in the ditch. We'll except beaver that's I skin and eat.

I have a fantasy someday I will not only put up fur but tan and make things out of it. But I also have the same unlikely fantasy of finding and cuting my own wood for bow and arrows and finishing them and successfully hunting with it. If I'm honest with myself neither is likely to happen for over a decade at least and probably never at all. So off th the dead pit they go. Sure was nice when I could get a few bucks green or even in the round and 100 on live coyote i didn't feel like i was wasting it then. Buyers don't even want them now a lot of time on coon anyway unless thing change the last few years.

Our small line is limited to our farm and friends that want predators gone. don't take big #s under 10 k9 3 fox 30 coon 10 beaver, opossum#? and a mink, few skunks and bobcat would be typical slightly on the high side for the 200 acres max on 2 tracks we trap on. Then 5 to 10 ground hogs and another several opossum and coon nuisance on the farm after season.

Edit Swamp the best Game wardens are/were also the the best poachers. Sure are some that give the rest a bad name though. Young girl 18 maybe? shot a nice buck with her bow wardens thought her dad or brother shot it and she tagged it. well he couldn't prove it( because she shot it) but he keep digging. Found out she didn't have the right tag. It was her first time buying her tags herself instead of dad doing it for her on line and checked the wrong box. Honest mistak and easy to see time sdates on buying the wrong tag. instead of understanding and cutting her a break he took her deer and gave her a ticket. Heck ok give her a ticked but let her keep her deer. But no Barney took her deer. I think her first bow kill buck and a very nice buck.

Results youn girl got rid of her equipment and will.never hunt again. Congratulations Game wardens mission accomplished.





Twice I contacted you about putting your fur up. And offered to help you learn. You said it was to far to travel. So please don't say nobody offered.

Re: How many of you trap… [Re: D Cobb] #8405098
05/17/25 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by D Cobb
Originally Posted by Providence Farm
I don't trap or bother skinning out for fur anymore. I never learned to finish and get good at putin fur up. I'm very limited on time and not spending 35 mins fleshing out a $2 coon have one look hood then the next fur falls out of.. It's not worth my time messing with at this time even though it's a skill I really want to learn. I skinned and froze everything for years throwing it out from time to time with the idea I would find some to pay that would put it up for me and maybe take the time to teach the boys how to do it right. I thought with low fur price complaining guys would Like geting paid more to flesh and board alone than selling their finished catch. Well I gave up finding anyone to pay.

So now I trap to reduce predators and keep population healthy and toss them in the ditch. We'll except beaver that's I skin and eat.

I have a fantasy someday I will not only put up fur but tan and make things out of it. But I also have the same unlikely fantasy of finding and cuting my own wood for bow and arrows and finishing them and successfully hunting with it. If I'm honest with myself neither is likely to happen for over a decade at least and probably never at all. So off th the dead pit they go. Sure was nice when I could get a few bucks green or even in the round and 100 on live coyote i didn't feel like i was wasting it then. Buyers don't even want them now a lot of time on coon anyway unless thing change the last few years.

Our small line is limited to our farm and friends that want predators gone. don't take big #s under 10 k9 3 fox 30 coon 10 beaver, opossum#? and a mink, few skunks and bobcat would be typical slightly on the high side for the 200 acres max on 2 tracks we trap on. Then 5 to 10 ground hogs and another several opossum and coon nuisance on the farm after season.

Edit Swamp the best Game wardens are/were also the the best poachers. Sure are some that give the rest a bad name though. Young girl 18 maybe? shot a nice buck with her bow wardens thought her dad or brother shot it and she tagged it. well he couldn't prove it( because she shot it) but he keep digging. Found out she didn't have the right tag. It was her first time buying her tags herself instead of dad doing it for her on line and checked the wrong box. Honest mistak and easy to see time sdates on buying the wrong tag. instead of understanding and cutting her a break he took her deer and gave her a ticket. Heck ok give her a ticked but let her keep her deer. But no Barney took her deer. I think her first bow kill buck and a very nice buck.

Results youn girl got rid of her equipment and will.never hunt again. Congratulations Game wardens mission accomplished.





Twice I contacted you about putting your fur up. And offered to help you learn. You said it was to far to travel. So please don't say nobody offered.


I don't clearly recall that honestly but seem vaguely familiar. More likely it was not distance but having time to cover that distance and plan ahead enough if it was more than an hour and half from home. Hard to fit in with 97 hr work weeks and 127 mile drives to work I had been knocking down the last several years especially when the ot is only planed day of or within 24hrs at most ahead of time.

But you are correct you did offer I should have stated that was not able to get lined out. So again your corect it was distance because of the added time required to cover it and quordinte. Traveling and driving is not ever an issue for me I actually enjoy trips. Time is someone I was short on. Many weeke if I made it home it was for 14 to 19 hours that week and never planed or known what .if or when I was going to make it. So hard to plan multiple hours of driving having fur thawed last minute.

I'm really noticed cognitive issues the las few weeks. Today and yesterday had a few more highted on t man. forgetting about your offer and the truck issue thread problem and my complete forgetting about the mechanical fuel pump on my 91 250. Try as I may. I have not been working any ot the last 3 weeks so geting more sleep but am more tired. had a.few.other.mild issues. Made me wonder if I messed my body up that bad on so little the last few years, if it's mid 40s and testosterone getting lower, several severe head injuries catching up, or a mild warning I'm going to have to break down and go back to the neurologists And admit to myself I really may have MS and let him do a spinal tap.

I must have removed your pm at some point. time go time I go through them and if I see it I would have remembered I would think. Says central indiana is that south of I 64 tords Ferdinand state forest or In central Indiana meaning middle of the state. If South of 64 that's likely only an hour and half or so if that guessing and just my poor memory. When I looked up central IN just now I was expecting something north of indy a little not down there not 30 mins or less off route on my drive to work if that's where your at. Could even be on tha way to or from hunting in Ferdinand state forest or Hoosier.

Re: How many of you trap… [Re: TheCarpenter] #8405118
05/17/25 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by TheCarpenter
We don't have many marten around here, our big thing is cats. I think they're going for 2-300 CAD. something like that with I believe a limit of 5. I could see that being worth some money. Coyotes here are worthless since Canada goose stopped using their fur because of PETA, before that they were worth really good money. Otters are worth I think anywhere from 25-65 CAD I think.

For me personally with the cost of gas alone, It's an enjoyable hobby to pass down and if I can pay for my gear, gas, maintenance then I'll be a happy camper! I just can't see it being worth money at all as a profession, only as a passion and really fulfilling life most only dream about, right?

If a person is going to be self employed with a tax number and trap professionally it just doesn't have the ability to touch another profession I guess is all I'm saying, I run just about the smallest carpentry business you could imagine, and what I can clear in a month could squash a year of trapping for a fraction of the work of skinning & fleshing, which to me would mean it's a hobby to most everyone out there, which I don't think is a bad thing. If it weren't for hobbies many traditions would have gone the way of the dinosaur and with hobbyists combined with the professional trappers to learn from we'll have a great network and lobbying group to protect trapping for future generations.

A lot of it depends on how and where you live your life too. I know a few people whose only cash income is furs and their PFD. But they’re also not spending money on anything other than fuel and the occasional box of ammo. No property taxes, no monthly bills of any kind, so if they put up $10,000 worth of fur they’re having a decent year. And the fuel is going to be an expense of going out to forage, fish, or hunt for food anyways, so why not set some traps along the way? People living that way are becoming few and far between, but they’re around.

Re: How many of you trap… [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8405119
05/17/25 05:46 PM
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PFD?


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Re: How many of you trap… [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8405122
05/17/25 05:49 PM
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Re: How many of you trap… [Re: beaverpeeler] #8405131
05/17/25 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
PFD?

Permanent fund dividend. Its residents share of oil revenue. The one that makes idiots think you “get paid” to live in AK. It’s usually around $1,000 to $1,500. Not enough to even cover the difference I spend on groceries in a fiscal quarter compared to someone down there.

Re: How many of you trap… [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8405221
05/17/25 09:25 PM
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It used to be a lot more than that didn't it?


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Re: How many of you trap… [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8405229
05/17/25 09:35 PM
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Google it. Geez! It only becomes big money when parents spend their 5 or more kids worth.


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Re: How many of you trap… [Re: beaverpeeler] #8405243
05/17/25 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
It used to be a lot more than that didn't it?

No. It’s always been pretty small. That’s why I said idiots think you get paid to live in Alaska. The most I’ve ever got was like $3,200. Just the one time. Otherwise $1,200-$1,800 is pretty standard.

Re: How many of you trap… [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8405244
05/17/25 10:22 PM
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LOL…. Anyone who lives in Alaska solely for the PFD payout is a loser. Doubt there are many who do.

Re: How many of you trap… [Re: mad_mike] #8405248
05/17/25 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by mad_mike
LOL…. Anyone who lives in Alaska solely for the PFD payout is a loser. Doubt there are many who do.

Maybe on the streets and alleyways in Anchorage…in tents lol. And half of them freeze to death every winter

Re: How many of you trap… [Re: AK Timber Tramp] #8405253
05/17/25 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by AK Timber Tramp
Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
It used to be a lot more than that didn't it?

No. It’s always been pretty small. That’s why I said idiots think you get paid to live in Alaska. The most I’ve ever got was like $3,200. Just the one time. Otherwise $1,200-$1,800 is pretty standard.

Monthly?

Annually?


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Re: How many of you trap… [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8405256
05/17/25 11:20 PM
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Annual. They’re talking about doing away with it altogether, unless you make under $50,000. Which is way below poverty line here. It costs me $1,900 to charter a float plane to my cabin from Ketchikan, same if I need to go back into town. The PFD doesnt even begin to cover the difference I pay for regular groceries over the course of a few months. Hence why subsistence is a big thing around here. A crappy expired steak from the store is $65. A 24 pack of coors light is $39, etc.

Re: How many of you trap… [Re: ] #8405259
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Originally Posted by Savell
…. Some decent beer money right there

I can drink beer faster than you can buy it, pilgrim….LOL

Re: How many of you trap… [Re: ] #8405261
05/17/25 11:39 PM
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Ride on down and find out for sure

I have the nicest couch on this rock, you’re welcome to it anytime. Plane ride’s on you though lol

Re: How many of you trap… [Re: ] #8405262
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Originally Posted by Savell
Ride on down and find out for sure

Lol… I would be paying way more than you would. Maybe if Uncle Swampy could try to catch us if he could, it would be worth it….

Re: How many of you trap… [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8405321
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The antis love this hobby stuff. I’ve had comments to my vids like “just out there to kill something eh?”
To the trappers that don't have mentors to teach proper fur handling, figure it out. I started by putting up beaver, nobody holding my hand or knife for me. Just do it, there’s tons of info out there.
As for being a member of an association or not. The only trappers that aren't, seem to have had a bad experience with them so they’ll shoot them down every chance they get and insult others who are members that pay $2.50 a month to the association. Some just want more swag for their money, they don’t really know why there’s an association.


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Re: How many of you trap… [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8405334
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Would you be a member of an organization who constantly refers to trapping as a "sport" at the same time claiming they are going to protect trapping?


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Re: How many of you trap… [Re: Dirt] #8405336
05/18/25 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Dirt
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Would you be a member of an organization who constantly refers to trapping as a "sport" at the same time claiming they are going to protect trapping?

Absolutely.


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Re: How many of you trap… [Re: AK Timber Tramp] #8405338
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Originally Posted by AK Timber Tramp
Annual. They’re talking about doing away with it altogether, unless you make under $50,000. Which is way below poverty line here. It costs me $1,900 to charter a float plane to my cabin from Ketchikan, same if I need to go back into town. The PFD doesnt even begin to cover the difference I pay for regular groceries over the course of a few months. Hence why subsistence is a big thing around here. A crappy expired steak from the store is $65. A 24 pack of coors light is $39, etc.

Well....I guess every little bit helps.

You seem to have a complaining tone when describing living up there. Am I reading you right?


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