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The One Big Beautiful Bill will help me #8407675
05/22/25 02:53 PM
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As a Senior living on a fixed income, if the Bill passes and I don’t have to pay Federal Income Taxes on my Social Security income, I figure it will save me almost 1,000 dollars per year. That is, if my calculations are correct.


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Re: The One Big Beautiful Bill will help me [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8407698
05/22/25 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Grandpa Trapper
As a Senior living on a fixed income, if the Bill passes and I don’t have to pay Federal Income Taxes on my Social Security income, I figure it will save me almost 1,000 dollars per year. That is, if my calculations are correct.

You might wanna do some reading on this...

This bill did not eliminate federal income taxes on SS.

The bill (if passed unchanged by the Senate)...allows a $4000 tax deduction on SS income for seniors over the age of 65.


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Re: The One Big Beautiful Bill will help me [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8407699
05/22/25 03:41 PM
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I'd not count your chickens yet, they still lost a lot of stuff due to the Demo's refusing to talk, and the Republican's had one no vote and two against still !! So Rino's are alive and well !!

Senate may be easier but the argument may be longer

I would enjoy not paying on my SS as well, but seems no one in either party can get going with anything to do with SS !!!


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Re: The One Big Beautiful Bill will help me [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8407704
05/22/25 03:51 PM
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This explains the House version that passed....

In summary: an increased standard deduction for all tax filers. And an additional $4000 for 65 and older.

Keep in mind that these are temporary changes.....set to expire in 2028 unless re-done.

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Re: The One Big Beautiful Bill will help me [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8407786
05/22/25 06:22 PM
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Still a heck of deal for seniors. If SS is 24K a year and you are at 12% tax bracket that is 2800$ so it is a win for seniors it is a break, better then a kick in the hole.


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Re: The One Big Beautiful Bill will help me [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8407841
05/22/25 08:13 PM
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I hope it's the right move for the country. I like both Donald Trump and Thomas Massie. Their views on this bill 100% opposite of each other. I hope Massey does not get primaried. I don't think he will.

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Re: The One Big Beautiful Bill will help me [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8407844
05/22/25 08:26 PM
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I think Massie wanted more cuts....and it wouldn't have passed at all without some give & take.


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Re: The One Big Beautiful Bill will help me [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8407847
05/22/25 08:34 PM
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What about the debt increase?


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Re: The One Big Beautiful Bill will help me [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8407848
05/22/25 08:35 PM
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the $40k SALT is what gets my goat. It is the very definition of a tax break for the wealthy.


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Re: The One Big Beautiful Bill will help me [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8408091
05/23/25 10:33 AM
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I don't know where they are getting those figures. The Standard deduction for joint filers for 2024 was already at $29,200. Also if you raise the standard deduction by 4K you don't save 12% of 24 K or $2800, you save the extra 12% of the 4 K or $480. Not near what has been calculated here but still a savings. All those temporary increases go until the next presidential election year, unlike many that go much longer term.

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Re: The One Big Beautiful Bill will help me [Re: danny clifton] #8408093
05/23/25 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
What about the debt increase?

The national debt only matters when your party isn't the party in power. (That goes for both D and R).

Re: The One Big Beautiful Bill will help me [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8408095
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Another monstrous spending bill. One of those days the party is going to be over


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Re: The One Big Beautiful Bill will help me [Re: loosegoose] #8408130
05/23/25 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by loosegoose
Originally Posted by danny clifton
What about the debt increase?

The national debt only matters when your party isn't the party in power. (That goes for both D and R).

Proven time and time again.

Re: The One Big Beautiful Bill will help me [Re: bblwi] #8408137
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Originally Posted by bblwi
I don't know where they are getting those figures. The Standard deduction for joint filers for 2024 was already at $29,200. Also if you raise the standard deduction by 4K you don't save 12% of 24 K or $2800, you save the extra 12% of the 4 K or $480. Not near what has been calculated here but still a savings. All those temporary increases go until the next presidential election year, unlike many that go much longer term.

Bryce

You are correct. Im not sure why those figure I copied are incorrect. They came directly from an article about the new bill.

Standard deduction for joint filers will increase to $32,000.


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Re: The One Big Beautiful Bill will help me [Re: danny clifton] #8408152
05/23/25 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
What about the debt increase?


It's going to be Yuge! Typical politics. Picking winners and loser and buying votes with debt.


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Re: The One Big Beautiful Bill will help me [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8408156
05/23/25 12:54 PM
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Maybe the politicians making those decisions don't even have a clue what the numbers are today and may well be one reason why they have no Idea what the impacts will be short or long term. Political survival comes at a great cost and not just financial.

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Re: The One Big Beautiful Bill will help me [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8408158
05/23/25 12:56 PM
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Looks like the big losers are those relying on medicaid & ACA.

Not taking sides, it doesn't affect my situation.


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Re: The One Big Beautiful Bill will help me [Re: ky_coyote_hunter] #8408164
05/23/25 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ky_coyote_hunter
Looks like the big losers are those relying on medicaid & ACA.

Not taking sides, it doesn't affect my situation.


I haven't researched the Medicaid cuts, but these are supposedly State programs and the financial burden will just possibly shift to the States?


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Re: The One Big Beautiful Bill will help me [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #8408169
05/23/25 01:22 PM
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Your man Ted Cruz supports it.

"NewsNation) — Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, has defended President Trump’s “big, beautiful bill,” arguing it will create jobs and economic growth"

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Re: The One Big Beautiful Bill will help me [Re: Dirt] #8408171
05/23/25 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Dirt
Originally Posted by ky_coyote_hunter
Looks like the big losers are those relying on medicaid & ACA.

Not taking sides, it doesn't affect my situation.


I haven't researched the Medicaid cuts, but these are supposedly State programs and the financial burden will just possibly shift to the States?

Yes, but some states are indicating they can't make up the shortfall...The expanded medicaid states like Kentucky will really be on the hook.

Kentucky has been talking about eliminating state income tax...Bet that doesn't happen now.


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