Your State sucks.

That’s ridiculous. How can you own the road? Do you clear snow and maintain the road?

Are you held responsible if someone dies on your portion of the road?

Educate me!

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If some one falls on my property and breaks a hip but is in the state road easement do they sue me? Yep! The state road easement is for access by the state not just all residents. Just like railroad easements. They are so the railroad can maintain the rails but you are not allowed to hunt them without state written permission. I know cause I bought a railroad easement next to my business and still need (and will not get) state permission. Part of all of this is about liability. Hard to grasp?

How does one have permission to drive and walk on the road that you own, but they don’t have permission to be on your property?

What a retard that signed that into law.

MOst

Many countries do not ever let you own land. Most of them are really not awesome. Move to one and enjoy!

Using the word retard defines you!

Can you trap in the right of way in Michigan?

Water ways yes. Not sure about others never have.

With permission.

I'm very glad Iowa is not that way.

Waterways are governed by the Raparian Rights Act of 1958 & 2012. Basically, the adjacent property owner owns to the center of the waterway, similar to the ROW Law.

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Waterways are governed by the Raparian Rights Act of 1958 & 2012. Basically, the adjacent property owner owns to the center of the waterway, similar to the ROW Law.[/quote]
So can be navigated if deep and wide enough for said boat?

I'm not sure how it legally works in MN regarding foraging in the ditch, I never minded when people would grab something from our ditch, flowers, mushrooms, etc. Certain greedy people do get me upset though, grab some flowers for your wife but don't dig up the whole bush!

That’s part of it. Those years I worked for MSU on the local rivers I had to garner permission for 76 property owners. The reason was that I couldn’t put a trap stake in the river bottom or bank without permission of the Platted property owner! Pretty simple, you can wade the waterway, you can float the waterway but I couldn’t put a stake in the bottom or bank.

From what I can research land owners don't pay tax under a road, not sure about row. I also doubt tax is paid under a state highway or in the row, as that land was bought from the owner in order to put the highway in. Just because the state court made that ruling doesn't make it right.

Nah, it makes sense. They calculate my taxes based on acreage, which includes everything to the center of the roadway (or the entire road if I owned the property on both sides). If I pay taxes on that land, I should surely have a voice in who gets to harvest animals, fruits and vegetables on said land. The public is allowed to travel it, but thats it...can't come clean my apple trees, asparagus patches or furbearer without my permission. Seems crazy to me to have it any other way...unless of course I didnt pay taxes on it.

No, that’s not accurate. My description for my property taxes included the 33’ ROW to the centerline of the road. One acre measured from the centerline of the road which are taken from quarter-line Settman boxes which one of those boxes was my SE corner. I think you’re correct about “State” ROWs

You want to get educated on who owns what property & taxes come buy property in Michigan.

Trappers used to and maybe still do argue they are legal to trap without asking permission by saying they are trapping a “County drain” which is complete BS in Michigan. They were/are liars and trespassers flat out! They never think about the property owner who has to pay the County to clean those ditches that THEY own!!!!

ABSOLUTELY correct and better explained than what I try to do.

LMAO! No chit!!! Try using a 4.25” CR dog-stop on coyotes & fox!!!! Liberal, progressive F-N State!!!

So, to all those trappers on this board wanting to answer questions make sure your answers pertain to the State from which the question originates and not your own State or Country! Saves a lot of confusion and arguments for some folks!!!!

I would look at ROW trapping , if anyone is good to drive a stake and set steel , then the State does not see it as your property but county , state or town property

if you have to ask permission for ROW trapping and get it from the land owner , then it is the land owners with an utility easement.

varies by state or country

the double standard is of course lakes and rivers depending on state set anchor all day with your boat but putting a trap float on an anchor would be a violation

How can the state collect tax revenue on land you can't utilize? Doesn't seem legal and certainly not ethical.