Re: Had a great day on the water today
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06/03/25 04:58 PM
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Now that is a good day! We saw so many sea otters when we were out on the boat up there. I didn't realize how prolific they are.
Since only natives can harvest, are you allowed to sell items made with the fur? Once it’s tanned and made into something anyone can have it I think, I’m not sure, there’s a huge demand for them to make regalia and hats and such, that I usually trade them with other tribal members. My aunt does a lot of sewing, so I usually take them to her and she deals with them, and gives me finished products in exchange. Which doesn’t hurt me at all, fleshing them is a horrible chore lol
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Re: Had a great day on the water today
[Re: beaverpeeler]
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06/03/25 05:49 PM
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The first fur trading on the west coast was sea otter. The pelts were worth a fortune in Canton, China. Ships loaded with trade goods from Boston went to the west coast picked up sea otter, sailed to Canton flipped their cargo for tea/spice, sailed to England flipped the load for manufactured goods and then sailed back to Boston. Fortunes made. Makes sense, their fur is similar in color and texture to a land otter (river otter, whatever you call them) but is anywhere from 3 to 6 times the size, and never loses its prime. I think a lot of the reason is that a land otter is a land animal that likes to swim, and does so in waters that vary a lot in temperature, so it makes sense they wouldn’t want a winter coat all summer or vise verse. Sea otters can’t leave the water, they have essentially flippers for back feet (think beaver but with absolutely no way to use their “foot” as a foot, and no pads/sole of their feet) so they’re in the ocean 365 days a year, and even this time of year it’s probably about 44-46 degrees all the time
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Re: Had a great day on the water today
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06/03/25 07:55 PM
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AK, if you don't mind me asking, what tribe are you affiliated with? Haida/Tlingit Thanks AK. Hope I'm not being intrusive. I just find all of the stuff surrounding our ethnicities fascinating. My kid whose mother is Mexican had his DNA tested and found that the biggest contributor to his native American side was Alaskan Athabascan! A real head scratcher, but then it turns out that Na Dene also include Navajo and Apache groups from the American Southwest. Makes it more understandable. My kid from a few years back. You do detect all the Swedish from me right? Lol
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My fear of moving stairs is escalating!
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Re: Had a great day on the water today
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06/03/25 08:14 PM
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…. I’m gonna dress up like an Eskimo…. Ride up there club some seals .. shoot some sea otter and slap a grizzly bear around
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Re: Had a great day on the water today
[Re: Savell]
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06/03/25 08:20 PM
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…. I’m gonna dress up like an Eskimo…. Ride up there club some seals .. shoot some sea otter and slap a grizzly bear around No brown bear or eskimos on this island, you might want to choose a different one lol. The seals and sea otter, I can get behind that lol. I don’t shoot many seals even though I can. They stink and they’re heavy, and I personally have no use for them. I occasionally pop one to save some fish from the water wolves
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Re: Had a great day on the water today
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06/03/25 10:51 PM
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A Quinault that I went to school with had a harbor seal jacket that was beautiful. I don't think non-tribal can have them though unless it is considered art work. I asked my aunt, since that’s kind of her thing. She said once it’s significantly modified it can be sold to anyone in the United States, but not internationally, even if it’s a completed garment. And significantly modified doesn’t mean tanned, it means made into something useful, beautiful, or more likely, both.
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Re: Had a great day on the water today
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06/03/25 11:08 PM
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…. Send me a significantly modified sea otter vest with walrus foreskin trim You’re hilarious, and therefore probably fun to drink beer with, you are welcome to come up fishing anytime. As for the vest, my aunt makes all kinds of stuff out of them, I’m sure she’d be happy to. I won’t lie, they aren’t cheap. All harvested, skinned, fleshed, tanned, and sewn by hand right here locally like it has been forever. Gonna have to rain check on the walrus foreskin, we’re a little light on walrus around these parts lol.
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Re: Had a great day on the water today
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06/03/25 11:29 PM
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lol …. I’d like to make it there with yall good people sometime
…keep to the old ways and resist change
… Texas ain’t what it used to be unfortunately
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Re: Had a great day on the water today
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06/03/25 11:39 PM
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lol …. I’d like to make it there with yall good people sometime
…keep to the old ways and resist change
… Texas ain’t what it used to be unfortunately Offer stands
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Re: Had a great day on the water today
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06/03/25 11:46 PM
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Sure appreciate it partner…. Once I get these kids raised I may take up on a trip like that
…. Y’all are living right up there
In the meantime… keep these good post like this coming
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Re: Had a great day on the water today
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06/06/25 06:18 PM
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…. Send me a significantly modified sea otter vest with walrus foreskin trim Can’t help you with the foreskin trim but I could do you up with some walrus oosik buttons!
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Re: Had a great day on the water today
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06/06/25 07:53 PM
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I'm jealous great day on the water.
Give me a fish, I will eat for a day. Teach me to fish, I will eat for a lifetime
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