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Re: Churches avoiding teachings? [Re: Chancey] #8422126
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Originally Posted by Chancey
Agree Skinner.
What man, single or otherwise, has never lusted over a beautiful woman?


Life application of Romans 3:23 - I agree

The only requirement for Gods grace - to be a sinner. We all qualify.

Re: Churches avoiding teachings? [Re: 2zwudz] #8422127
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Yet God would repair a second marriage, make it fruitful and condemn those individuals even still?


-Goofy
Re: Churches avoiding teachings? [Re: bowhunter27295] #8422136
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What is your interpretation of Jesus word in Matthew 5:32, Matthew 19:9 ? Paul in 1 Corinthians 7:15? Honest question.
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My interpretation would be that divorce causes adultery. 1 Cor interpretation would be that he is speaking to a believing spouse of an unbeliever and to allow separation for a time

Re: Churches avoiding teachings? [Re: HobbieTrapper] #8422141
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Originally Posted by HobbieTrapper
Yet God would repair a second marriage, make it fruitful and condemn those individuals even still?


Personally - I can not say God would even recognize a second marriage. How can He separate what was joined as one? I would never say God will condemn an individual because I do believe in unconditional love and forgiveness by Jesus Christ. That said, scripturally, I find it easiest to follow what Jesus teaches us. Again, I see no difference in someone being married 2 or 3 times before they truly had the knowledge of Jesus Christ in their life. If they continue on in sin.....that is different. See, when I joined in premarital sex, I was no different than someone married several times without knowledge of Christ. If I continue to sin while professing Christ then I am no different than someone going out and getting constantly remarried. Again, we can't earn it - by faith we are saved.

Re: Churches avoiding teachings? [Re: TreedaBlackdog] #8422162
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Originally Posted by TreedaBlackdog
Originally Posted by Chancey
Agree Skinner.
What man, single or otherwise, has never lusted over a beautiful woman?


Life application of Romans 3:23 - I agree

The only requirement for Gods grace - to be a sinner. We all qualify.

For ye are saved by grace through faith.


Christ is King
Re: Churches avoiding teachings? [Re: TreedaBlackdog] #8422198
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Originally Posted by TreedaBlackdog
Originally Posted by HobbieTrapper
Yet God would repair a second marriage, make it fruitful and condemn those individuals even still?


Personally - I can not say God would even recognize a second marriage. How can He separate what was joined as one? I would never say God will condemn an individual because I do believe in unconditional love and forgiveness by Jesus Christ. That said, scripturally, I find it easiest to follow what Jesus teaches us. Again, I see no difference in someone being married 2 or 3 times before they truly had the knowledge of Jesus Christ in their life. If they continue on in sin.....that is different. See, when I joined in premarital sex, I was no different than someone married several times without knowledge of Christ. If I continue to sin while professing Christ then I am no different than someone going out and getting constantly remarried. Again, we can't earn it - by faith we are saved.


So all the good in my life is of my own doing?

I don’t know what to do with this new revelation. This is going to free up Sundays and put money back in the family coffers. Thank you Treedablackdog.


-Goofy
Re: Churches avoiding teachings? [Re: TreedaBlackdog] #8422199
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Originally Posted by TreedaBlackdog
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Jesus was pretty hard lined in that divorce was only allowed when fornication occurs. That's why I said it was above my pay scale when I referred to "other reasons for divorce".


Could you give me that scripture where Jesus allowed divorce? I thought he quoted that Moses allowed it.. Please educate me where Jesus said divorce was allowed.

Matthew 19:9. I still don't believe that Jesus would considerer a battered and beaten woman guilty of adultery if she divorces the abuser and marries another. I just believe that divorce should only occur for the most egregious offenses such as spousal abuse. I believe Jesus just didn't take the time to point those reasons out in His conversation with the Pharisees. He just wanted to make the point that divorce was not acceptable, especially for the reasons Jewish men were using to divorce their wife. Of course, that's not what Matthew 19:9 says.

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Re: Churches avoiding teachings? [Re: 2zwudz] #8422208
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Can’t get divorced, can’t put a gun in her mouth or your own, looks like the hippies had it right, just don’t get married at all.


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Re: Churches avoiding teachings? [Re: HobbieTrapper] #8422232
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Originally Posted by HobbieTrapper
Can’t get divorced, can’t put a gun in her mouth or your own, looks like the hippies had it right, just don’t get married at all.


Just food for thought :

God made Adam male and female. Adam needed a help mate so God took the female out of Adam which was Eve. That left Adam not whole, nor was Eve. So God joined them back together as one to make them whole again in marriage.
Their offspring was whole because they was from each, both Adam and Eve. Each person has the trait of their mother and father.

I think society has brain washed the children into thinking they are not whole if they are not married, which is not totally true. We get tied up with thinking we are not whole when we physically are whole. An individual nor marriage is not whole without the third part which is the presence of God.

Make any sense?

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