Catfish dying in pond
#8423668
06/21/25 07:00 PM
06/21/25 07:00 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2012
Warren co Mo
hrdtoflw
OP
trapper
|
OP
trapper
Joined: Jan 2012
Warren co Mo
|
I keep finding channel catfish dead in my pond. These fish appear to be healthy, then just float to the bank. Coons then find them, and drag them out, then eat them. The catfish I found today do not have any marks on them, to suggest that they were killed by a predator. As a matter of fact, all of them were un marked! Could I have a water quality issue like lack of oxygen, or something else? It is only catfish, in the 5 pound range, with no bass or bluegill showing up dead. Maybe these catfish are just old. Any of you have issues like this? I do feed the catfish about every two days!
If your mind draws a blank, turn off the sound, because ya can't learn a thing if you're doin all the talkin
|
|
|
Re: Catfish dying in pond
[Re: hrdtoflw]
#8423675
06/21/25 07:15 PM
06/21/25 07:15 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2012
Warren co Mo
hrdtoflw
OP
trapper
|
OP
trapper
Joined: Jan 2012
Warren co Mo
|
Last September, I added 100 baby catfish 8” long. They seem to be doing great.
If your mind draws a blank, turn off the sound, because ya can't learn a thing if you're doin all the talkin
|
|
|
Re: Catfish dying in pond
[Re: houndone]
#8423687
06/21/25 07:33 PM
06/21/25 07:33 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2012
Warren co Mo
hrdtoflw
OP
trapper
|
OP
trapper
Joined: Jan 2012
Warren co Mo
|
If you don't have enough oxygen your bigger fish will be the 1st to die.i found out the hard way years ago came home from work and had about 50 white bellies floating put a aerator in after that haven't had a issue since. Is there a way to test for oxygen in a pond or lake? My pond is right at 4 acres, and it is 18 years old. It has lots of vegetation, but it is also full of under sized bass, that need to go!
If your mind draws a blank, turn off the sound, because ya can't learn a thing if you're doin all the talkin
|
|
|
Re: Catfish dying in pond
[Re: hrdtoflw]
#8423697
06/21/25 07:49 PM
06/21/25 07:49 PM
|
Joined: May 2011
Oakland, MS
yotetrapper30
trapper
|
trapper
Joined: May 2011
Oakland, MS
|
I killed a bunch of my fish last year. Has it been hot and dry there? It was hot and dry here, and I was feeding daily. Went out one day to find about 40 of my biggest fish dead. It was lack of oxygen. I ordered this Aerator, but my pond is much smaller than yours (~1/2 acre). It solved the problem. You would probably need a bigger one, or else 2 of them. If you are on Facebook, you might like this group. https://www.facebook.com/groups/162038234967760
Last edited by yotetrapper30; 06/21/25 07:50 PM.
Proudly banned from the NTA.
Bother me tomorrow. Today I'll buy no sorrows.
|
|
|
Re: Catfish dying in pond
[Re: hrdtoflw]
#8423713
06/21/25 08:12 PM
06/21/25 08:12 PM
|
Joined: Dec 2007
40 years Alaska, now Oregon
alaska viking
"Made it two years not being censored"
|
"Made it two years not being censored"
Joined: Dec 2007
40 years Alaska, now Oregon
|
Yes, likely lack of oxygen. A pond your size will need at least 1 large aerators. You will find an abundance of information on "Pond Guy". Google it and search for aeration. Lots of info, and they sell what you need, as well as information on how to achieve a healthy system.
Just doing what I want now.
|
|
|
Re: Catfish dying in pond
[Re: hrdtoflw]
#8423719
06/21/25 08:20 PM
06/21/25 08:20 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2012
Warren co Mo
hrdtoflw
OP
trapper
|
OP
trapper
Joined: Jan 2012
Warren co Mo
|
Thanks everyone for the advice, it is definitely helpful and appreciated!
If your mind draws a blank, turn off the sound, because ya can't learn a thing if you're doin all the talkin
|
|
|
Re: Catfish dying in pond
[Re: KeithC]
#8423795
06/21/25 09:39 PM
06/21/25 09:39 PM
|
Joined: Dec 2006
Very SE Nebraska
Gary Benson
trapper
|
trapper
Joined: Dec 2006
Very SE Nebraska
|
A lot of breeding age channel catfish die from the stress of spawning.
Keith I darn near died of that last night...
Last edited by Gary Benson; 06/21/25 09:41 PM.
Life ain't supposed to be easy.
|
|
|
Re: Catfish dying in pond
[Re: KeithC]
#8423798
06/21/25 09:45 PM
06/21/25 09:45 PM
|
Joined: Mar 2013
IL
houndone
trapper
|
trapper
Joined: Mar 2013
IL
|
A lot of breeding age channel catfish die from the stress of spawning.
Keith Iam not sure if its true but I've heard Catfish won't reproduce in ponds and I've had them in my pond for 20 years and have never seen any small ones.
Last edited by houndone; 06/21/25 10:25 PM.
|
|
|
Re: Catfish dying in pond
[Re: hrdtoflw]
#8423876
06/21/25 10:54 PM
06/21/25 10:54 PM
|
Joined: Apr 2007
ohio
Ohio Wolverine
trapper
|
trapper
Joined: Apr 2007
ohio
|
A lot of weeds in a pond, will cause the oxygen levels to fall as they die and cause carbon dioxide . Helped my sister spread a chemical to kill the weeds in their small lake 3-4 acres . A week later most of the biggest fish were dead. Yes an aerator would help.
We have met the enemy and the enemy is us!
|
|
|
Re: Catfish dying in pond
[Re: hrdtoflw]
#8423882
06/21/25 10:58 PM
06/21/25 10:58 PM
|
Joined: Apr 2007
ohio
Ohio Wolverine
trapper
|
trapper
Joined: Apr 2007
ohio
|
If you're handy with tools, you can make your own, out of barrels cut to have fins, mounted on a center post and bearings to allow for easy movement. Most people buy a windmill type set up in the pond to just stir up the water , or some the produce forced air into the pond. Should be easy to find what may work for you on line.
We have met the enemy and the enemy is us!
|
|
|
Re: Catfish dying in pond
[Re: houndone]
#8423942
06/22/25 12:02 AM
06/22/25 12:02 AM
|
Joined: Jan 2017
Marion Kansas
Yes sir
trapper
|
trapper
Joined: Jan 2017
Marion Kansas
|
Yes, likely lack of oxygen. A pond your size will need at least 1 large aerators. You will find an abundance of information on "Pond Guy". Google it and search for aeration. Lots of info, and they sell what you need, as well as information on how to achieve a healthy system. Must be a regional thing as none of the ponds I've fished in KS have aerators and our fish do fine. A lot of breeding age channel catfish die from the stress of spawning.
Keith Iam not sure if its true but I've heard Catfish won't reproduce in ponds and I've had them in my pond for 20 years and have never seen any small ones. Catfish reproduce fine in ponds in Ks. At least bullheads and channels
Last edited by Yes sir; 06/22/25 12:03 AM.
|
|
|
Re: Catfish dying in pond
[Re: Gary Benson]
#8423953
06/22/25 12:16 AM
06/22/25 12:16 AM
|
Joined: Apr 2011
SE SD
DWC
trapper
|
trapper
Joined: Apr 2011
SE SD
|
A lot of breeding age channel catfish die from the stress of spawning.
Keith I darn near died of that last night... I know that I would feel like dying if the spawn was successful…. I remember growing up we had a ton of ponds in the area and the big cats were the first to go. Doesnt make any sense because Ive seen channel cats live a long time out of water, seems like theyre tougher than others but I guess not.
|
|
|
Re: Catfish dying in pond
[Re: hrdtoflw]
#8424106
06/22/25 09:34 AM
06/22/25 09:34 AM
|
Joined: Jan 2012
Warren co Mo
hrdtoflw
OP
trapper
|
OP
trapper
Joined: Jan 2012
Warren co Mo
|
No ag spraying Marty. I will get the water tested for oxygen, and go from there!
If your mind draws a blank, turn off the sound, because ya can't learn a thing if you're doin all the talkin
|
|
|
Re: Catfish dying in pond
[Re: houndone]
#8424494
06/22/25 08:48 PM
06/22/25 08:48 PM
|
Joined: May 2009
Champaign County, Ohio.
KeithC
trapper
|
trapper
Joined: May 2009
Champaign County, Ohio.
|
A lot of breeding age channel catfish die from the stress of spawning.
Keith Iam not sure if its true but I've heard Catfish won't reproduce in ponds and I've had them in my pond for 20 years and have never seen any small ones. Catfish often don't have decent spawning sites in ponds. There's often not any natural cavities for them to spawn in. Running water makes more shelves and cavities, that make good nesting sites. Eggs laid where they can't be protected by the male catfish don't often hatch and survive. The fish spawn anyways. Keith
|
|
|
Re: Catfish dying in pond
[Re: Gary Benson]
#8424501
06/22/25 08:52 PM
06/22/25 08:52 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2007
MN
160user
trapper
|
trapper
Joined: Jan 2007
MN
|
A lot of breeding age channel catfish die from the stress of spawning.
Keith I darn near died of that last night... Alone on a Saturday night, huh?
I have nothing clever to put here.
|
|
|
Re: Catfish dying in pond
[Re: hrdtoflw]
#8424668
06/23/25 07:04 AM
06/23/25 07:04 AM
|
Joined: Dec 2006
Western Michigan
Animals Only
trapper
|
trapper
Joined: Dec 2006
Western Michigan
|
Don’t forget about heat. If your water gets too hot it will kill your fish. Heat causes a thermocline or a separation of oxygen in the water column. The top of the water will have oxygen and the bottom won’t. The fish will have to stay at the top of the pond and will die from heat exposure. Aerators will not only add oxygen but help keep your pond cool by bringing the bottom cool water to the surface and mix it with oxygen and cooling the surface water. Eventually you will no longer have a thermocline and have plenty of oxygen at the bottom of your pond where the fish can stay cool throughout the summers heat.
AKA: Rusty Shackleford
|
|
|
Re: Catfish dying in pond
[Re: hrdtoflw]
#8424835
06/23/25 01:25 PM
06/23/25 01:25 PM
|
Joined: Dec 2006
St. Louis Co, Mo
BigBob
trapper
|
trapper
Joined: Dec 2006
St. Louis Co, Mo
|
Try asking a fisheries biologist. Busch Wildlife is the headquarters for E Mo area. # 636-441-4554.
Every kid needs a Dog and a Curmudgeon.
Remember Bowe Bergdahl, the traitor.
Beware! Jill Pudlewski, Ron Oates and Keven Begesse are liars and thiefs!
|
|
|
Re: Catfish dying in pond
[Re: hrdtoflw]
#8424899
06/23/25 03:01 PM
06/23/25 03:01 PM
|
Joined: Nov 2010
Rochester, MN
Teacher
trapper
|
trapper
Joined: Nov 2010
Rochester, MN
|
When you test a pond for oxygen, do it at several depths. Then check it at night. You’ll find a significant difference between night and day. Plant respiration produces carbon dioxide at night and oxygen during the day. Aerators do add oxygen but also mix what’s naturally occuring.
Never too old to learn
|
|
|
Re: Catfish dying in pond
[Re: hrdtoflw]
#8425396
06/24/25 09:55 AM
06/24/25 09:55 AM
|
Joined: Jan 2012
Warren co Mo
hrdtoflw
OP
trapper
|
OP
trapper
Joined: Jan 2012
Warren co Mo
|
I contacted a local lake management guy, and they will be by this week. He said with the rain we have had over the last few months, that he can almost rule out low oxygen! He is going to look at our pond, and give me some recommendations on what I need for future success!
If your mind draws a blank, turn off the sound, because ya can't learn a thing if you're doin all the talkin
|
|
|
Re: Catfish dying in pond
[Re: KeithC]
#8425431
06/24/25 11:17 AM
06/24/25 11:17 AM
|
Joined: Nov 2015
OH
Catch22
trapper
|
trapper
Joined: Nov 2015
OH
|
During the spawn, large male catfish fight each other over nesting cavities, fight anything that tries to enter and don't eat while protecting the eggs and fry, all while in warmer water temperatures, where their bodies consume more calories. There's going to be some mortality.
Keith That would be my 1st guess Keith. The only weird thing is the OP said they weren't tore up, no signs of scrapping.
I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
|
|
|
Re: Catfish dying in pond
[Re: houndone]
#8425537
06/24/25 02:43 PM
06/24/25 02:43 PM
|
Joined: Dec 2022
illinois
jalstat
trapper
|
trapper
Joined: Dec 2022
illinois
|
If you don't have enough oxygen your bigger fish will be the 1st to die.i found out the hard way years ago came home from work and had about 50 white bellies floating put a aerator in after that haven't had a issue since. Yes sir
|
|
|
Re: Catfish dying in pond
[Re: hrdtoflw]
#8428489
06/30/25 01:14 PM
06/30/25 01:14 PM
|
Joined: Dec 2006
St. Louis Co, Mo
BigBob
trapper
|
trapper
Joined: Dec 2006
St. Louis Co, Mo
|
Concrete blocks and old tires work very well too.
Every kid needs a Dog and a Curmudgeon.
Remember Bowe Bergdahl, the traitor.
Beware! Jill Pudlewski, Ron Oates and Keven Begesse are liars and thiefs!
|
|
|
Re: Catfish dying in pond
[Re: houndone]
#8428732
06/30/25 09:41 PM
06/30/25 09:41 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2012
Warren co Mo
hrdtoflw
OP
trapper
|
OP
trapper
Joined: Jan 2012
Warren co Mo
|
Any updates on the oxygen level or what was causing the problem? I am hoping the pond guy gets by my place this week. No news yet!
If your mind draws a blank, turn off the sound, because ya can't learn a thing if you're doin all the talkin
|
|
|
|
|