So your rationale is based off a dislike of Israel. Everyone even anti Isrral group knew Iran was developing nuclear weapons and everyone knew Iran had stated it wanted to destroy the US. Neither are even debated among pro Irian groups or anti Israel groups for me that's enough for a primitive strike. Considering our enemies also hate Israel one must ask themselves why. Logic would point to Israel mostly being on our side. And adding that all the Liberals in this country including Obama, Biden and the Clinton's didn't like Israel it only makes me feel more confident.

Oh yeah Savell. Dang nice fish there. Good fun. I love catching those big blues, but hate cleaning all the red meat off them. Its something I do with patience and a close by icechest.

Last year, we caught a few good yellacats, but mostly small blues. 3-5lbs and that was with 100 hooks in the river with good bait. We were fishing for big fish. This year the same. Less than five yellas and 20-30 blues and channels and most of them little blues.

These were the last really good yellas we've caught; Last year. Not even very big, but dang good eatin ones. My oldest stepson and youngest daughter in the pic. FIL in the background.

You sure you want a Dugout Doug? He was deadset on nuking Beijing even with Joe Stalin being their buddy at the time.

And there has never been a more political general than Mac. He actually tried to polically sideline the President and got fired for it.

BTW, I'd take Patton as he was a terrible politician.

No Sir.

My family has been to Israel multiple times. I have no dislike for the Israeli people, the Jewish people are anyone that lives in Canaan. On the other hand, I have great disdain for the Israeli Government under Netanyahu. Two of the last prime ministers of Israel have both said that Netanyahu should be tried for war crimes.

Chancey, you mean like Obama/Hillary/Biden/Kamala saying that Trump is a criminal?

What should comfort you is hope. not in savell cause he looks like desperation and bad decisions. Not in your feel goods, freedom is what should motivate

They are all criminals and liars Warrior. They argue with each other and make a show. But they get along just fine at the Bilderberg meetings and in Davos.

They are the smart ones; we are the dumb ones.

This is a sincere question.

Is Trump a criminal? I don't know, but he is certainly a bald faced liar.
He needs to release the dang Epstein Files he promised. He also promised that he would not get us into another mideast war.

Chancey do you think we should have let Iran attain nuclear weapons? Just asking to understand where u stand and if we have any common ground. From what i know im good with Netanyahu but maybe you know more than me. From where I stand based off who likes him and who doesn't he seems to be on the right side.

What war you talking about ?

Considering Trump doesn't control what our enemies do its difficult to keep such a promise. Yes maybe he shouldn't have made that promise but if he truly believes his decision was in the best intrest of the security of the US i can understand why he had to break that promise. Having to break a promise is secondary to the security of this country

I'll add that i believe we made a primitive strike on an enemy and at this point i dont believe we are in a war yet.

I don't think it is any of our business if a sovereign country wants to create nuclear energy. I don't think any country should have nukes, but my opinion don't stop reality. If they feel under threat from a regime as WE did during WWII and the Cold War, then I think a sovereign nation should be able to make its own decisions on whether or not they want a nuclear bomb. That is what we did, that is what Israel did, that is what Russia did, etc, and I personally don't think we have the moral backbone to stand on regarding nukes being we are the only country on planet earth that have ever used them; and did so on an already defeated country.

Iran wants a nuclear weapon because its two biggest enemies have nukes.

All nuclear weapons need to terminated.

Hope and pray you are correct Yes Sir. Escalation would be bad for the entire world.

No one is talking about nuclear energy and u know it

Great comeback from someone who adds nothing to threads but cheap uneducated rhetoric. You truly don't have any value, Daddy issues? Not even the OP came at me. Is it possible for you to not be you on threads? Either add to or abstain?

Yes. They are! The country we just bombed has been saying it is all about nuclear energy the entire time, and that they have the right to nuclear energy as a sovereign country just like every one else and do not want to build a nuclear weapon. That is what they have said again and again. Are they lying? Probably. But that is what they have been saying.

It's just that we don't ever get to hear their side unless we go to a foreign news source.

We only hear what the MSM wants us to hear. Doesn't really matter anyway now. We are in it.

I just hope you all are right on how this will play out in the coming months.

We got some folks up here with their head buried in Iranian sand ....lmao


Bottom line ..... Iran no have nukes.....lol

Thanx ... Mr orange man bad

Let Israel fight their own war and without our money . The Israel lobby twisted The Donalds arm .Shame on you Trump , God Bless America a Christian Nation .

Catch 22 seems to think he's the smartest person in the room, and can throw whatever he thinks is clever, demeaning, or puts him in charge of the conversation the final word.
You, Catch 22, are NOT the smartest person in the room, not a Mod, and frankly, in my humble opinion, add nothing useful to any conversation.
And maybe, just maybe, Savell isn't as simplistic as you seem to believe. I suggest you don't over-estimate yourself.