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Re: New Vehicle Interest Deduction..... Math Help? [Re: DiggerDale] #8437140
07/16/25 07:32 AM
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Edmunds says that in MN, the average new car loan rate is 5 to 6 percent. That is the reality of today's market.




No matter how much the current administration would like it we aren't seeing 2 percent rates for some time barring a black swan event. June CPI numbers came in hotter than expected, 2.7 percent.


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Re: New Vehicle Interest Deduction..... Math Help? [Re: DiggerDale] #8437155
07/16/25 07:59 AM
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Honestly - I can't stand the thought of even paying the sales tax on a new vehicle. On a personal vehicle, non-business related, I see no way to deduct that.

I definitely understand being slave to the lender. I am blessed that I have lived relatively cheap all my life, saved, watched investments grow, bought land, farms, houses and had them appreciate. I have made money off credit cards through the savings and cash back deals and never once paid a cent of interest as I always pay the balance. All of my purchases other than 3rd house, I had money to pay them off if need be - but I was and still am making more on my money invested than my mortgage.

Re: New Vehicle Interest Deduction..... Math Help? [Re: DiggerDale] #8437162
07/16/25 08:14 AM
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In Theory... if what you are saying is true...

If you make $50,000 a year... 20% of that = $10,000. (being taxed 20% on your check, which is low)

If your car loan is also $50,000... 8% of that = $4,000. (being taxed 8% on your car loan)

$50,000 - $4,000 means you are taxed 20% on $46,000 instead of $50,000. (your adjusted income, same as a 401k contribution deduction.)

$46,000 taxed at 20% = $9,200

Paying $10,000 in taxes vs paying $9,200 in taxes = $800 savings in paying taxes. (your refund is for $800 more than normal, but everything is new so there isn't a normal)

Re: New Vehicle Interest Deduction..... Math Help? [Re: Steven 49er] #8437192
07/16/25 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Steven 49er
Edmunds says that in MN, the average new car loan rate is 5 to 6 percent. That is the reality of today's market.




No matter how much the current administration would like it we aren't seeing 2 percent rates for some time barring a black swan event. June CPI numbers came in hotter than expected, 2.7 percent.



checked with my bank and loan rate was 4.25% for 3 year $30000....Kind of surprised me considering my IRA CD is paying 5%

The interest deduction on that would equate to about 1100$ the first full year, 700$ second year, and 250$ third year....

Re: New Vehicle Interest Deduction..... Math Help? [Re: OhioBoy] #8437201
07/16/25 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by OhioBoy
In Theory... if what you are saying is true...

If you make $50,000 a year... 20% of that = $10,000. (being taxed 20% on your check, which is low)


I think with the new old folks reduction my standard deduction is right at $46700.. Filing joint for 2025

Re: New Vehicle Interest Deduction..... Math Help? [Re: Steven 49er] #8437610
07/17/25 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Steven 49er
If your tax rate is 20 percent you'd save 400 dollars to pay 2000 in interest

It's silly to let people to write off interest on a car loan for non business use


Why? How is this any sillier than any other tax policy that rewards certain businesses/ individuals?

Tax policy has been this way my entire life. frown


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Re: New Vehicle Interest Deduction..... Math Help? [Re: DiggerDale] #8437684
07/17/25 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by DiggerDale
First off is a little summary that I copied off the interweb....

"Starting January 1, 2025, taxpayers can deduct interest on certain qualified auto loans—but only if the vehicle and loan meet specific federal criteria.
Here’s what qualifies:
Up to $10,000 per year of interest on a qualifying auto loan can be deducted from your federal income.
Vehicle must be assembled in the United States; final assembly must occur within the U.S.
Only new vehicles—used vehicles do not qualify.
The loan must be secured by a first lien on the vehicle (i.e., the lender has the primary claim if you default).
The vehicle must be for personal use only; commercial use or fleet vehicles are excluded.
A valid Vehicle Identification Number (VIN) must be reported on your tax return.
This is an above-the-line deduction, meaning you don’t need to itemize to claim it—an important feature for the many taxpayers who now take the standard deduction."

If the tax rate on my Fed taxable income is 20% and the loan interest is 8%... Does that mean I come out 12% ahead on the interest paid?
There has to be something I'm missing here....



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