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Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: ] #8444638
07/28/25 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Leroy Bob
Rat Masterson hates vegetables. Let it be known.

Les - greenhouse effect is one of the leading theories behind how humans impact climate change. Idea is that the earth should be colder than it is, but because of specific gases (CO2, methane, water vapor) heat is held in and thus warms the earth.


Just trying to help.

Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: Finster] #8444639
07/28/25 11:14 PM
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LOL Still harping about climate change I see.
Whatever happens , is going to happen weather you stop using fossil fuels or not!
The earth will end it, same as it's done for billions of years.
It will rebuild and go on.
Remember only a rock lives forever!


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Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: AntiGov] #8444650
07/28/25 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by AntiGov
Funny how in 35 yrs of bs no one can say how much the globe has warmed.....I wanna see a number

I would like to see a report of the temperature of the planet on any given day. I'll let them pick the day.
We'll never see it, because the land, the ocean, and the atmosphere is so vast, complex, much of it unaccessible, and ever changing that it cannot be done.
The best they have to go on are miniscule random sampling data which is so minute that it fails to meet the standards of a valid scientific study.

Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: beaverpeeler] #8444660
07/29/25 12:06 AM
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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
Originally Posted by AntiGov
Uv filters ......easy peasy .....during the industrial revolution we had a good balance ....no global warming.



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Nice if it were true. Go to the beach on a cloudy day and put no sunscreen on and see how that theory works for you. And CO2 measurements have been going up, up and away during the industrial revolution but it is just now becoming noticeable. But ice cores don't lie.

Just You tube.



Now that would be ridiculous to think a very slight reduction in solar rays would eliminate sun burn ......however a tenth of a degree in reduced temperature should appease " the sky is falling " crowd.......or would it ? Prolly just buy into another hoax

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Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: Finster] #8444673
07/29/25 01:07 AM
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Antigov is bigger than me so I'll let him have the last word. LOL


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Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: ] #8444740
07/29/25 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Leroy Bob
What’s everyone’s stance on the greenhouse effect?


better question...of the "greenhouse gases" present on earth, what are their relative percentages?

Mars' atmosphere is more than 95 percent CO2...why isn't it a million degrees there?

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Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: Ohio Wolverine] #8444742
07/29/25 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Ohio Wolverine
LOL That's carbon monoxide , not carbon dioxide , see even the globalists don't know the difference.
More carbon monoxide is produced by the active volcanos spread all over the world than factories , or cars.


https://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/carbon-dioxide/?intent=121

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Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: Finster] #8444745
07/29/25 07:47 AM
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If everyone on the East and West coast held there breath for an hour. I think I would seen improvement.

Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: 52Carl] #8444746
07/29/25 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by 52Carl
Originally Posted by AntiGov
Funny how in 35 yrs of bs no one can say how much the globe has warmed.....I wanna see a number

I would like to see a report of the temperature of the planet on any given day. I'll let them pick the day.
We'll never see it, because the land, the ocean, and the atmosphere is so vast, complex, much of it unaccessible, and ever changing that it cannot be done.
The best they have to go on are miniscule random sampling data which is so minute that it fails to meet the standards of a valid scientific study.


https://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/global-temperature/?intent=121

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Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: Finster] #8444756
07/29/25 08:15 AM
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The greenhouse effect is not some sort of new “phenomenon”. It was first theorized in the early 1800’s and the specific gases were theorized later in the 1800’s. Who was funding leftist whacko agendas in the 19th century??

Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: Finster] #8444760
07/29/25 08:22 AM
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It’s well documented that many of the historic weather stations don’t exist anymore, and they continue to report “estimates” based an historical data

The ones that do still exist were built back in day, outside of built up areas,,,,,,today they are surrounded by concrete/asphalt/ urban sprawl. Giving distorted temps

Recently it was in the headlines that Las Vegas recorded the highest recorded temperature ever,,,blew past previous records

For years the weather station was at the end of the runway in the sand/desert. The airport expanded, and surrounded the station with black asphalt,,,,

Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: Finster] #8444782
07/29/25 09:22 AM
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Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: D.T.] #8444789
07/29/25 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by D.T.
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I'm not sure what you are showing here... but its easy to just draw a graph with no reference or source.

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Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: ] #8444798
07/29/25 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Leroy Bob


Human advancement has been exponential over the last 250 years. We alter the landscape everywhere we go, most often in a negative manner. Maybe it’s just a coincidence the world tends to be warming up, on average, in that timespan.


Yes, we have altered the landscape, but negative or positive depends on your perspective.

Modern agriculture has probably altered the landscape as much as anything. Folks who frequenty go to grocery stores for an incredibly diverse selection of affordable food would consider it a positive.

We have altered the landscape with transportation and utility corridors all across the country. Those of us who travel anywhere we want forr work or pleasure, or flick a light switch, or set a thermostat, consider it a positive.

I could go on........

If this has caused the planet to warm somewhat perhaps the benefits outweigh the cost.

Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: Finster] #8444799
07/29/25 10:18 AM
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The miniscule increase in Co2 is for a fact beneficial to growing food, still just a theory as part of global warming.


Just the right amount of whelm.
Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: walleye101] #8444806
07/29/25 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by walleye101
Originally Posted by Leroy Bob


Human advancement has been exponential over the last 250 years. We alter the landscape everywhere we go, most often in a negative manner. Maybe it’s just a coincidence the world tends to be warming up, on average, in that timespan.


Yes, we have altered the landscape, but negative or positive depends on your perspective.

Modern agriculture has probably altered the landscape as much as anything. Folks who frequenty go to grocery stores for an incredibly diverse selection of affordable food would consider it a positive.

We have altered the landscape with transportation and utility corridors all across the country. Those of us who travel anywhere we want forr work or pleasure, or flick a light switch, or set a thermostat, consider it a positive.

I could go on........

If this has caused the planet to warm somewhat perhaps the benefits outweigh the cost.


Fear of change is something a lot of folks grapple with, some of us, not so much.


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Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: walleye101] #8444840
07/29/25 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by walleye101
Originally Posted by Leroy Bob


Human advancement has been exponential over the last 250 years. We alter the landscape everywhere we go, most often in a negative manner. Maybe it’s just a coincidence the world tends to be warming up, on average, in that timespan.


Yes, we have altered the landscape, but negative or positive depends on your perspective.

Modern agriculture has probably altered the landscape as much as anything. Folks who frequenty go to grocery stores for an incredibly diverse selection of affordable food would consider it a positive.

We have altered the landscape with transportation and utility corridors all across the country. Those of us who travel anywhere we want forr work or pleasure, or flick a light switch, or set a thermostat, consider it a positive.

I could go on........

If this has caused the planet to warm somewhat perhaps the benefits outweigh the cost.


I think this is a fair point. I’m not personally convinced we’re at catastrophic levels of change, but there are plenty of negative impacts to be considered. The first that comes to mind is our lack of safe ice to fish on the last half decade. I’d sure love to get that back regularly.

Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: ] #8444915
07/29/25 01:58 PM
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That kind of makes my point Leroy. Is safe ice for fishing, even if you could assure it, worth reversing the positive gains achieved during the industrial age. Contrary to what the Climate folks would tell you, the impacts of the industrial revolution will not be reversed by building a few windmills or changing all your light bulbs to LED. That is the real inconvenient truth.

Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: ] #8444918
07/29/25 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Leroy Bob
there are plenty of negative impacts to be considered. The first that comes to mind is our lack of safe ice to fish on the last half decade. I’d sure love to get that back regularly.



while we were in Finland in March, we drove a dogsled down a frozen river.

hop a plane and go ice fishing.

Re: Still believing in climate change? [Re: Finster] #8445259
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Nothing wrong with wanting to ice fish. You can take a lap, white.

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