Re: Extremely dangerous rewilding law passed in il
[Re: foxkidd44]
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08/10/25 08:35 AM
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Heard on news about a month ago some of your eastern counties wanting to become part of Indiana
"Keep your traps free"
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Re: Extremely dangerous rewilding law passed in il
[Re: NorthwesternYote]
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08/10/25 09:43 AM
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[quote=NorthwesternYote][quote=yotetrapper30]We lived in Henderson county. Midwest side of the state.... directly across the river from Burlington, IA. You were on the border with IA. I used to live in IA and I'll bet I could've gotten some permissions there. I live in the outskirts of Chicagoland and it wouldn't break my heart to see some of the land "rewilded" here. Grew up in Lake County and had over 12 farms to hunt/ trap from '84 to '04 They're all strip malls and subdivisions now. 
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Re: Extremely dangerous rewilding law passed in il
[Re: foxkidd44]
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08/10/25 03:02 PM
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foxkidd44
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After church today, I talked with a few farmers about this issue and they had absolutely no idea
they are pretty steamed
Im trying to locate the number of this legislation, so that I can go to the library and print out several copies and pass them around. Its looking like this thing was introduced And zoomed right through the statehouse
not much time to find opposition to this.
Stand by your principles, Stand by your guns, and victory complete and permanent is sure at last. Abraham Lincoln
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Re: Extremely dangerous rewilding law passed in il
[Re: foxkidd44]
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08/10/25 03:16 PM
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Rewilding is a National movement, conceptually it began in the early seventies and is just now coming to fruition in quite a number of states. In the1970's it was called Wilderness recovery. Being pushed big here in Colorado, and all Blue states. Just Google "rewilding".
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Re: Extremely dangerous rewilding law passed in il
[Re: foxkidd44]
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08/10/25 03:21 PM
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Our ancestors worked hard to give us the easy lives we live today. Rewilding from folks who think a drive through yellowstone makes them outdoor people does not surprise me. I believe they think the world would be a better place without humans.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Extremely dangerous rewilding law passed in il
[Re: foxkidd44]
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08/10/25 03:23 PM
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The first time I heard the term was in 1988 at a local US Forest Service public scoping meeting. The representative from an envronmentalist group said their long range goal is to turn what was orginally the "grass-lands" back into bison habitat that would encompass their original range. These folks are evil; they loath humans.
BTW, the representative for the environmental group was not some crazy looking radical, he was a well dressed, older looking executive type.
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Re: Extremely dangerous rewilding law passed in il
[Re: foxkidd44]
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08/10/25 04:43 PM
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(20 ILCS 805/805-135 new) Sec. 805-135. Rewilding. The Department of Natural Resources has the power to exercise all rights, powers, and duties conferred by law and to take measures that are necessary for the implementation of rewilding as a conservation strategy in this State, including, but not limited to, the restoration of land to its natural state, the reintroduction of native species, particularly apex predators and keystone species, and the restoration of ecological processes as defined by State-specific baselines. Yep. Not good.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Extremely dangerous rewilding law passed in il
[Re: foxkidd44]
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08/10/25 06:58 PM
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Re: Extremely dangerous rewilding law passed in il
[Re: foxkidd44]
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08/10/25 08:38 PM
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I could be wrong , but to my reciliation, it all started with a man in a suit, making a self-made job. Cleveland Armory. ( SP ) Friends of animals.
We have met the enemy and the enemy is us!
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Re: Extremely dangerous rewilding law passed in il
[Re: Chukar]
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08/10/25 10:40 PM
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[quote=NorthwesternYote]Grew up in Lake County and had over 12 farms to hunt/ trap from '84 to '04 They're all strip malls and subdivisions now.  There are still many farms dotted around. I tried knocking on doors but was met with more hostility than I'm comfortable with. I think there's a higher level of distrust in this part of the state, and I think half of the properties are owned by doctors and lawyers who are doing it as a lifestyle choice. If they have a problem with wildlife they'd prefer to throw money at it. The most common excuse I got knocking on doors was, "We already have somebody." Much of the time I think they were saying it to blow me off but I also believe some of them just prefer to pay professionals to do it. It's really tough for a hobbyist like me to get traction here.
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Re: Extremely dangerous rewilding law passed in il
[Re: MChewk]
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08/10/25 11:03 PM
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I like what jalstat said, Danny, I'm not sure what changed with our DNR. IF they ever institute a re-introduction of APEX predators the state's livestock organizations are going to push back. Heck, the exclusive deer organizations can't handle the coyote predation now. They will undoubtedly be outraged too. Sounds like our Gov. has allowed the deep pocketed anti-rights folks into the state organization with a campaign promise....Gov has his eyes on the presidency. Can you imagine that fat turd as the POTUS?
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Re: Extremely dangerous rewilding law passed in il
[Re: NorthwesternYote]
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08/11/25 06:20 AM
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I'd feel more torn up about it if I'd been able to get trapping permission from even one private landowner. But maybe more public lands is the best path for me to continue trapping, as the only trapping I was able to do last season was on public land.
So because YOU could not get permission to trap you think it is OK to seize land from private landowners? You stated you live on the outskirts of Chicago, curious how much effort you put into obtaining permission. As in did you only try the 10min from your house or whatever was convenient for you? Or did you reach out to landowners state wide? Do you own any land (more than a lot your house sits on/ subdivision plot)? Are you OK with the government taking your possessions because the neighbor wants to enjoy it? I am against the government forcing anyone to give up their possessions just because the neighbor would like to have/use it. And if you think the government is going to stop at just those who hurt your feelings by not letting you use THEIR land as you wish you need to think again. They would take from the ones who let you trap also. I hope you can find a place to trap but not at the cost of private individuals losing their right to own property and do with as they wish.
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Re: Extremely dangerous rewilding law passed in il
[Re: foxkidd44]
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08/11/25 09:51 AM
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The American Prairie Reserve is now the largest landowner in Montana, somewhere around 500,000 acres. Thats a lot of old family ranches bought out to rewild bison habitat. I imagine that will all be handed to the government someday.
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Re: Extremely dangerous rewilding law passed in il
[Re: Bob_Iowa]
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08/11/25 09:56 AM
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There is a push here in Iowa for it especially after this spring with nitrogen problems in Des Monies drinking water, were just fortunate enough that Ag has as much influence in this state that it does. The apex predator thing is fine just release them on lake shore drive. Your nitrogen problems is probably coming from all the irrigators. In our area they pump nitrogen through their irrigation systems for their crops.
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