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Re: PA guys; thoughts on Marten re introduction
[Re: elsmasho82]
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08/14/25 01:01 PM
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WI has been dumping money hand over fist for over 15 years into marten reintroduction. And we still don't have any a viable marten population.
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Re: PA guys; thoughts on Marten re introduction
[Re: elsmasho82]
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08/14/25 03:58 PM
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I am neutral on that subject. To increase the small game they need more timber harvesting scattered across the whole state. Stands of big timber do not hold much food for the small critters out there.....jk
Free people are not equal. Equal people are not free. What's supposed to be ain't always is. Hopper Hunter
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Re: PA guys; thoughts on Marten re introduction
[Re: elsmasho82]
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08/14/25 06:01 PM
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Hunters freaking out about martens eating thier turkey are hilarious. I don't think they know what a marten is. The way the rodent population is right a marten could fill up fast. There's way more that we don't control than we like to think. Nature does what she does mostly.
Right now I’m having amnesia and déjà vu at the same time. I think I’ve forgotten this before.
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Re: PA guys; thoughts on Marten re introduction
[Re: PAskinner]
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08/14/25 06:15 PM
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Hunters freaking out about martens eating thier turkey are hilarious. I don't think they know what a marten is. The way the rodent population is right a marten could fill up fast. There's way more that we don't control than we like to think. Nature does what she does mostly. I think it’s kinda funny too!!! “THEIR Turkeys” I was always told the biggest threat to any species is lack of habitat….but maybe I’m wrong. I don’t have the education nor experience many of you have.
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Re: PA guys; thoughts on Marten re introduction
[Re: elsmasho82]
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08/14/25 06:42 PM
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Our forefathers had the commonsense to know that if you wanted a thriving game population you killed the predators that competed with you for that harvest.
When I was a kid it was common to kill on sight any owl, hawk, fox or feral cat you happened to see while out hunting. Back then small game populations thrived. Now, not only do we protect some of those species but we actually re-introduce predators.
The loss of habitat plays a role. Between that and the increase in predators our small game populations are at an all-time low.
I question some of these guys saying there are tons of rabbits about. Yeah, I see them too on golf courses and in peoples yards during the spring and summer birthing seasons. I've been hunting them for fifty years. Come fall they are all but non-existent. Didn't use to be that way. Fifteen to twenty rabbits flushed a day was commonplace. And pheasants...don't get me started.
The PGC should be trying to figure out what we can do about the loss of habitat and the general decline in small game population rather than reintroducing yet another predator.
Eh...wot?
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Re: PA guys; thoughts on Marten re introduction
[Re: elsmasho82]
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08/14/25 06:45 PM
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Spring turkey hunting is one of my favorite things to do. Why on earth would anybody think it's a good idea to reintroduce a predator (fisher) that preys on them. Even if you don't hunt them, how is that a benefit to anyone?
Eh...wot?
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Re: PA guys; thoughts on Marten re introduction
[Re: elsmasho82]
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08/14/25 07:33 PM
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If you want more turkeys kill coon possums skunks.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: PA guys; thoughts on Marten re introduction
[Re: elsmasho82]
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08/14/25 07:43 PM
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They are native to PA.
But is "being cool to see them back" worth the boatloads of money the PGC has spent in the last several years doing feasibility studies, habitat suitability studies, forming reintroduction plans and plan synthesis, producing brochures and creating talking pints to sway public opinion in their favor worth the cool factor? Plus the continued cost to purchase and relocate them, to create and enforce new regulations?
Again, who benefits from this? A handful of folks that might see them in the wild? I doubt trappers will ever benefit. Fishers were reintroduced to PA thirty-plus years ago Today we can trap a whopping one per year and it takes a $20.00 permit to do it. And they are not open statewide.
Eh...wot?
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Re: PA guys; thoughts on Marten re introduction
[Re: danny clifton]
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08/14/25 07:44 PM
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If you want more turkeys kill coon possums skunks. Danny I cleanup the nest raider's in a rather large area and I can assure you it's the fisher's that are killing the turkey Turkey's roost in trees, fisher's can climb trees and we're only allowed 1 a season you do the math
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Re: PA guys; thoughts on Marten re introduction
[Re: danny clifton]
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08/14/25 07:45 PM
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If you want more turkeys kill coon possums skunks. Very true Danny. The problem is that with the fur market in the tank for quite a few years now, very few are doing that anymore.
Eh...wot?
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Re: PA guys; thoughts on Marten re introduction
[Re: wetdog]
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08/14/25 07:46 PM
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If you want more turkeys kill coon possums skunks. Danny I cleanup the nest raider's in a rather large area and I can assure you it's the fisher's that are killing the turkey Turkey's roost in trees, fisher's can climb trees and we're only allowed 1 a season you do the math But those other critters are nest raiders.
Eh...wot?
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Re: PA guys; thoughts on Marten re introduction
[Re: elsmasho82]
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08/14/25 07:50 PM
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danny clifton
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Smasho, marten are easy to catch when your trap is in front of them.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: PA guys; thoughts on Marten re introduction
[Re: elsmasho82]
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08/14/25 07:53 PM
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I never was about the monetary value of furbearers…
And I highly doubt if they were available for the taking that I would even buy a tag, as I said; little experience.
Twenty dollars for a fisher permit?! I thought they were six dollars?? You are right, $6.90. I got my costs mixed up.
Eh...wot?
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Re: PA guys; thoughts on Marten re introduction
[Re: danny clifton]
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08/14/25 07:53 PM
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Smasho, marten are easy to catch when your trap is in front of them. Looks like I won’t have the opportunity! I heard they are not trap savvy.. A cool video by Mike Lapinski learned me about them. Sometimes I watch it just to relax
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