Maybe that diamond stick needs to take a long dive over a short rail and try to learn to swim?

I hear ya. I'd just give up if they don't understand how a knife gets dull. Sharpening is a skill some just don't have and that's ok, but understanding the concept isn't difficult.

Some folks an' seem to use tools for what they're designed for. I gave up loaning knives out.

Wolfdog again do you use a wet stone to sharpen your knives?
It's the best way, it's time consuming , but once you get it sharp, and know enough to touch it up after every use, it's the best.
I've seen great quality knives ruined by those cheap sharpeners or grinders.
Once you get a quality knife sharp, and touch it up every time you use it, it will last your life time, and could last your grand children's life time if taught how to sharpen a knife.

O sorry but no not anymore. I used to have a big set the 6" wide 1' long ones in three different grits ..but somone broke em so ..yeah.. I use the little work sharp deal now , don't see myself going back . And don't get me started on those cheap sharpeners you even come near one of my good knives with one on them pull though things was helping butcher a deer one time had my three knife set , I got it from Horn on here , thanks again Horn !!! And I was the only one really able to do anything as far as cutting everyone's stuff was so dull... Anyhow let some gold on to one real quick after they keep talking about how sharp they seemed .. tired around to see him bring in of them pull though deal up to it. Yep no no no not my good ones . Snatched that back really quick

Wolfe, invite me down for a hog killing sometime and I will bring some knives for the family:

So, you won't have to watch yours as closely.

I might even be useful.

Recovering from hand surgery this week but should be up to speed by November or December.