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Illegal Immigrant Trucker Kills Three #8457866
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You all see this? It's been all over the news. An illegal immigrant who can't read or speak English obtained a commercial driver's license in California. He pulled an illegal u-turn and caused a crash that killed three people in Florida.



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Our roads are full of these idiots that can neither speak or read English. My best friend is an over the road trucker and has been saying this for years now that it would become an issue. The stories he tells of what he’s seen at truck stops throughout the country are crazy. I’m hoping that soon a lot of companies will be looking for new drivers, as these illegal, non assimilating, immigrants are weeded out for the safety of us all. As a bonus I bet the Americans in this profession will see better pay rates as a result…


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Re: Illegal Immigrant Trucker Kills Three [Re: Lugnut] #8457870
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Those Sikhs are bad news. I have a buddy who defends trucking companies for insurance companies. He hates them.

One of my clients had an employee killed by one in a similar incident.

Re: Illegal Immigrant Trucker Kills Three [Re: TC1] #8457880
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Originally Posted by TC1
Our roads are full of these idiots that can neither speak or read English. My best friend is an over the road trucker and has been saying this for years now that it would become an issue.


My wife said something similar last week.

I was telling her about my morning commute to work. I was driving my work van in the right lane of a major highway doing about 65mph. I was nearly past an off ramp on the right when some idiot in the left lane realizes that's the exit he wants. He cuts right in front of me. At the speed he was traveling I don't know how he didn't lose control pulling a hard turn like that. I had to jam on the brakes to the point where I left skid marks on the highway to avoid T-boning him as he's broad-sliding in front of me.

My wife commented that the large influx of illegals has contributed to more bad drivers on the road.

There are plenty of legal citizens who are terrible drivers but I think she's right.


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Re: Illegal Immigrant Trucker Kills Three [Re: Lugnut] #8457897
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I watched the video last night multiple times, it almost seems fake. I know it is not, but a couple of things really stand out. How does the driver of the van never even seem to slow down before slamming into the semi? I mean there is no way the truck driver slammed on the brakes and whipped a U-turn in less than 2 seconds. Also the reaction of the truck driver is completely unalarmed whatsoever, more like a casual "How am I going to get that van out from under my truck look on his face." I agree most of them should never be allowed behind the wheel. Plenty of incompetent drivers throughout the country though. We live in the country on hilly, gravel roads and it is pretty much and every day occurence that some jack doesn't come flying over a hill driving in the center of the road. The other night I met a farm pickup pulling a 5th wheel stock trailer. He was easily doing 55mph when he came over the hill at me in the center of the road. He was luckily smart enough to get over before he hit me. Though in my mirrors I saw the trailer clearly get some air under the tires. I was hoping he put it into the ditch but no such luck.

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Re: Illegal Immigrant Trucker Kills Three [Re: Lugnut] #8457898
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Dealing with a truck driver that speaks English is like winning the lottery now days.


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

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Re: Illegal Immigrant Trucker Kills Three [Re: NEYotetrapper] #8457905
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Originally Posted by NEYotetrapper
I watched the video last night multiple times, it almost seems fake. I know it is not, but a couple of things really stand out. How does the driver of the van never even seem to slow down before slamming into the semi? I mean there is no way the truck driver slammed on the brakes and whipped a U-turn in less than 2 seconds. Also the reaction of the truck driver is completely unalarmed whatsoever, more like a casual "How am I going to get that van out from under my truck look on his face." I agree most of them should never be allowed behind the wheel. Plenty of incompetent drivers throughout the country though. We live in the country on hilly, gravel roads and it is pretty much and every day occurence that some jack (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) doesn't come flying over a hill driving in the center of the road. The other night I met a farm pickup pulling a 5th wheel stock trailer. He was easily doing 55mph when he came over the hill at me in the center of the road. He was luckily smart enough to get over before he hit me. Though in my mirrors I saw the trailer clearly get some air under the tires. I was hoping he put it into the ditch but no such luck.



People lose focus on long or daily routine trips look up the math on how far a vehicle travels in just a few seconds, texting is a good example where this math is used. I’d drive from SD to IL years back only stopping for fuel and hit the drive through, when I got to IL I’d about walk into the door kind of a sea sick motion thing. Dot trucks and first responders get run into often it happens more than you think.


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I actually wondered the same thing, how did the driver of the minivan not see the big rig pulling the U-turn in front of him in time to slow down or stop?


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NEYotetrapper ,
I can explain a bit on why it appeared the van driver didn't slow down. I used to go to Florida a lot. I am very familiar with that exact piece of road. Been there many times.

My home base in Florida is in the Port St. Lucie/Stuart/Jensen Beach area. I would stay with friends I had there. Fort Pierce is one exit north of there on Florida's turnpike.

Florida's turnpike goes from that area to Orlando/Kissimmee area. It is a good way to save time than going north on I95 , then turning west on I4 to get to Kissimmee. You save about 1 hour plus.

Florida's turnpike is a toll road. Because of that the traffic is a lot lighter than I95 and I4. The exits are spaced apart a bit because every exit is also a toll plaza. As Florida's turnpike is more of an expressway than having exits every mile or so. Pleasant ride , low traffic , ya kinda kick back and put the cruise control on and enjoy the ride. Speed limits are about 70mph , so traffic flows at about 75mph.

With the low traffic , you pay less attention to knuckleheads swapping lanes every few moments.

The tractor trailer must have slowed almost to a stop to make it's illegal turn . It was probably in the extreme right lane to swing over. The mini van was probably in the left lane thinking it was passing a stopped/slow truck. When the truck had to slowly cross over to make it's illegal U turn , the minivan had almost no chance to slow down before impact.


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My GUESS is the co driver was navigating. Missed the exit and GPS said make a U turn. Neither of them recognize the alphabet we use. Another story said he only got one of four international road signs correct. Meanwhile its still a violation of federal dot regs to not speak and read English


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We should hold the driver, company who hired him, and state that issued him a CDL liable.


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There was no look of concern on the truck driver’s face after the accident.


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There is a reason they call them aliens. They come from countries (planets) that lack the laws, values, ethics, etiquette, etc. They're told the US is the land of free. They get here and think they can do whatever they want and don't give a crap about really assimilating and learning our laws and ways of life. They're given the answers in advance so they can pass tests, and given special minority treatment. It is a recipe for failure.

As far as driving, some of these people come from countries where they grew up delivering groceries on their head. They come here and are given a driver's license to operate a 5,000 to 30,000 lb wheeled machine with not much more than a few days or weeks of training. It may as well be a rocket ship. What do you expect is going to happen?

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Re: Illegal Immigrant Trucker Kills Three [Re: Leftlane] #8457973
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We should hold the driver, company who hired him, and state that issued him a CDL liable.

Agree !
There should be a settlement from each. All the same amount ..... and substantial !

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Originally Posted by Cragar


The tractor trailer must have slowed almost to a stop to make it's illegal turn . It was probably in the extreme right lane to swing over. The mini van was probably in the left lane thinking it was passing a stopped/slow truck. When the truck had to slowly cross over to make it's illegal U turn , the minivan had almost no chance to slow down before impact.


Semi started in the right lane. Min van was in the middle lane. When the van first pops into the video, its maybe 200 yards away from the semi.

Had a fatal semi crash a mile from my house on the highway last year. Semi tried to illegally U-turn on a BLIND emergency vehicle only strip and another semi hit it. They almost got the road opened when a truck decided to plow into the back of a semi that was stopped on the eastbound lane.

Its sketchy enough for passenger vehicles to U turn on highways, legal or not, let alone semis. One highway here they're installing uturn spots on a 60mph highway. They look like half-traffic circles on the sides of the road.

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Those foreign truckers follow the gps to a RR trestle near my home and can't get through....Lot's of good wholesome entertainment watching them try to back around a curve and up a hill to get back out.

Not many make it, and many have got stuck in the trestle, or backed off a deep bank.

Do I flag for them? Nope!....Do they get any coherent speech from me? Nope!


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There was this one back in May. Ukranian that doesnt speak english



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We need to do do something about undocumented workers but in this case, I put the oneness on the states that allowed him to drive and the company that gave him the keys.

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Originally Posted by ky_coyote_hunter
Those foreign truckers follow the gps to a RR trestle near my home and can't get through....Lot's of good wholesome entertainment watching them try to back around a curve and up a hill to get back out.

Not many make it, and many have got stuck in the trestle, or backed off a deep bank.

Do I flag for them? Nope!....Do they get any coherent speech from me? Nope!

Never thought about that , there is no clear accepted universal symbol for a low bridge. Gotta be speaking/reading the language wherever you are driving.
I was up in the French section of Canada a few years ago. All the signs were in French , no English allowed in some places.

While driving I was going slower than my usual and trying my hardest to navigate/follow traffic laws.

A traffic light is easy to figure out. Seeing a sign that was a red octagon , I knew what it meant even though it said ' ARRĘT '.
The trucker that killed 3 in Fort Pierce , FL did it right where there is a universally accepted sign with the no U-turn symbol.

But , yeah , there is no clear symbol for a low bridge. I've seen some signs with a bit of a picture of a low bridge , but it isn't perfectly clear like a red octagon sign.


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Dealing with a truck driver that speaks English is like winning the lottery now days.
I dont understand why LE does not put a non-English speaking commercial vehicle driver out of service and impound/tow the vehicle. I would be interested to know if higher higher tells them not to.


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