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Re: Why do churches not….? [Re: 2zwudz] #8462078
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I am tired not only of the corruption of churches but the so-called Christians that do not attend a church and say and do things but then claim, they never would say or do that because they are "Christians". If the way they act, and do, is being a Chrisitian I do not want to be that version and heaven is going to be real empty.

Re: Why do churches not….? [Re: 2zwudz] #8462106
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How come no one is explaining why they dont drink poison and play with venomous snakes? Who is laying on hands and curing cancer? When I was a kid I was told the laying on of hands did not work because my young cousin did not have faith. It was his fault he died in agony at 14 years old.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Why do churches not….? [Re: 2zwudz] #8462107
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If the poison, snakes and faith healing is not truth, how do you know what is?


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: Why do churches not….? [Re: danny clifton] #8462109
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
How come no one is explaining why they dont drink poison and play with venomous snakes? Who is laying on hands and curing cancer? When I was a kid I was told the laying on of hands did not work because my young cousin did not have faith. It was his fault he died in agony at 14 years old.

My great aunt in the 50's died from appendicitis because her holy roller faith healer husband wouldn't take her to a doctor. After that every time he got a pain he would go to the doctor. He wasn't a favorite in-law of our family.

Re: Why do churches not….? [Re: 2zwudz] #8462112
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Too many churches consider themselves a hotel for saints, not a hospital for sinners and act accordingly.


Being old is when you don't care where your spouse goes, just a long as you don't have to go too.
Re: Why do churches not….? [Re: danny clifton] #8462115
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
If the poison, snakes and faith healing is not truth, how do you know what is?



When mom was a kid she had a ton of warts and some other problems. Someone brought out a faith healer and it all went away. Now I dont expect you to believe a guy on the internet but I sure as heck do believe my mom's first hand personal account.

As far as your cousin and what sounds like a fraud. Well sometimes we pray God always answers Maybe not on our time frame or how we are thinking and sometimes the answer is no. It sure was no when my son was killed dont ask me why. But I will see him again.

Re: Why do churches not….? [Re: Trapper7] #8462117
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Originally Posted by Trapper7
Too many churches consider themselves a hotel for saints, not a hospital for sinners and act accordingly.


Well said. Not one of us is worthy and nothing we can do on our own will make us worthy. We have to accept the gift of salvation freely offered to us through Jesus sacrifice.

Just becust people are Christian does not mean they are now perfect and no longer sin. We do and do so often . the difference is repentance and trying to do better . If any of us were perfect or could be Jesus would not have had to come be tempted, humiliated, beaten, and killed.

Re: Why do churches not….? [Re: Providence Farm] #8462118
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Originally Posted by Providence Farm
Originally Posted by danny clifton
If the poison, snakes and faith healing is not truth, how do you know what is?



When mom was a kid she had a ton of warts and some other problems. Someone brought out a faith healer and it all went away. Now I dont expect you to believe a guy on the internet but I sure as heck do believe my mom's first hand personal account.

As far as your cousin and what sounds like a fraud. Well sometimes we pray God always answers Maybe not on our time frame or how we are thinking and sometimes the answer is no. It sure was no when my son was killed dont ask me why. But I will see him again.

Interesting about warts. My daughter had many warts on her hands. She tried some over the counter recipes which didn't help. I had read where some claimed ginseng had cured their warts. So, I got some ginseng capsules from a grower in WI. Within about two months her warts started disappearing. Within about 6 months she was wart free.


Being old is when you don't care where your spouse goes, just a long as you don't have to go too.
Re: Why do churches not….? [Re: KeithC] #8462120
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Keith,
These churches existed in the 1st century.
Revelation 1:4
I'm not sure where you get the idea all churches begin with The Catholic Church.


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Re: Why do churches not….? [Re: 2zwudz] #8462121
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I just try to stay one step ahead of the devil.

Re: Why do churches not….? [Re: 2zwudz] #8462158
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Think about it, if everyone got healed every time, no believers would ever die. Kinda hard to g to heaven that way.


Right now I’m having amnesia and déjà vu at the same time. I think I’ve forgotten this before.
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Just remember the last pope was all for illegal immigration but yet there’s a wall around the Vatican. My mother raised me a Catholic but I’ve only been in church at funerals in last 59 years . It’s all about a buck

Re: Why do churches not….? [Re: Giant Sage] #8462217
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Originally Posted by Giant Sage
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Keith,
These churches existed in the 1st century.
Revelation 1:4
I'm not sure where you get the idea all churches begin with The Catholic Church.

None of those were Protestants.

Re: Why do churches not….? [Re: NorthwesternYote] #8462251
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Keith,
These churches existed in the 1st century.
Revelation 1:4
I'm not sure where you get the idea all churches begin with The Catholic Church.

None of those were Protestants.

When it started, denominations didn't exist. It was just "The Way."


Right now I’m having amnesia and déjà vu at the same time. I think I’ve forgotten this before.
Re: Why do churches not….? [Re: PAskinner] #8462261
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Originally Posted by PAskinner
Think about it, if everyone got healed every time, no believers would ever die. Kinda hard to g to heaven that way.

This.
If death, disease, and bad stuff didn't happen, that would mean we are living in heaven. That option got screwed up a long time ago.


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Re: Why do churches not….? [Re: 2zwudz] #8462262
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Fear

Fear of losing tax exempt
Fear of offending the biggest tithers
Fear of upsetting the older members
Fear of running off the new attenders
Fear of the women
Fear of the men
Fear of upsetting the denomination
Fear of the Deacons/Elders

"For God hath not given us a spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind." 2 Timothy 1:7

We need more Martin Luthers

"Here I stand; I cannot do otherwise, so help me God!" Martin Luther


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Re: Why do churches not….? [Re: 2zwudz] #8462269
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I am a deep blue bird and God in Jesus Christ. I also do know that society has made a dramatic left turn. It’s easier to fill the pulpit and your sanctuary with people feeling a need for saving from a church or a following. When people don’t realize his faith comes from your heart and your soul in a belief of something you can’t see or touch. Within that faith it’s having the commitment to take up your cross daily. I feel as our society and many of the people within most religions have learned to go with the flow and try and bend their religion to outwardly project themselves as good people. All I know is that when I go to heaven and I pace God and Jesus that is right that I will be humble within my sins. I have sought and continue to seek forgiveness for my actions where I have wronged. Society has just gave up stopped arguing stop following the laws of the Bible and a loud things that are complete work of demons. I still go to church, but I don’t have to follow their rhetoric or believe everything they say. I read the word of God daily almost 3 times if not more throughout the day, I pray continuously and seek God‘s wisdom. Honestly think that’s where we’ve started to fall down as a people as a human race. We have forgotten others. There is a master and a savior.

Re: Why do churches not….? [Re: PAskinner] #8462283
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Originally Posted by PAskinner
When it started, denominations didn't exist. It was just "The Way."

And the idea of sola scriptura was proclaimed by Martin Luther in the 1500s. For the churches that maintained Apostolic Succession (Catholic, Orthodox, Church of the East) dating back to "The Way" of the early church, it's quite a novel concept.

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