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Re: 911 [Re: trapdog1] #8499943
11 hours ago
11 hours ago
Joined: Dec 2006
La Crosse, WI
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Originally Posted by trapdog1
Originally Posted by Macthediver
Wow some you guys being pretty harsh on the old Beav.
My little sister spent 37 years as 911 dispatcher. People who have never done that job have no idea what it take. As she was getting closer to retirement. They had her training new hires. Which was hard to even find people who could pass the test. She had new people literally quit and walk out before their shift was done. Just couldn't hack it.
I see people all time here on Tman saying you get what you pay for or vote for.
Those 911 dispatcher are expected to get you help as soon as you ask. Yet my guess is your county treats them like secretary at the front desk with their pay and benefit. Then everyone Monday morning quart backs them. Our dispatcher center has not been able to be fully staffed for years. Can't get people to stay. Actually has an AI machine answer anything non emergency. Same with some town ship PD. Dont want to pay what cost for even one day time officer. So expect sheriff to cover them.

But anyways not Beavs fault if people in that area getting what they pay for. Dispatcher was probably doing her nails and cop in dount shop. Right?

No one else want to say it. I will. Should called ice said had illegal. I dont know Beavs politics. Maybe he just ask him self what would Trump do??

Mac

Now it's Trumps fault. Wow.
I think the point here is that folks are surprised he and apparently the nursery guy just shrugged off the fact that someone was in distress and left.


I bet if you ask Trump be Biden and liberal fault.
Can't blame Beav for their sin. Thats not right. Beav is old enough to be considered DEI hire. Can't expect him to do things way everyone else thinks he should. Some you guys sure expect a lot of others.

Mac


"Never Forget Which Way Is Up"

Re: 911 [Re: The Beav] #8499950
11 hours ago
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Didn't think that expecting someone to help another person in distress was too much to ask.

There may be other circumstances here that Beav didn't explain, but it sure seems strange to just leave.

Re: 911 [Re: The Beav] #8499956
11 hours ago
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Eau Claire Wi
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Mac that was my thought as well I've met The Beav although it was more than a couple years ago and I mean no disrespect but I wouldn't expect him to be able load a unresponsive person into a vechile wink by himself. He is a very experienced trapper and is still getting it done, but come on guys, really? He's not 65 anymore.


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Re: 911 [Re: The Beav] #8499960
11 hours ago
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So, your telling me I should have hauled her into my truck and took her to the ER. That seems to scream Lawsuit.
And I did call 911.
So later on, today I stopped and talked to that guy at the nursery, and he said that the cops came and hauled her away and I guess from what he said she put up a pretty good fight before they got her in the squad car. And he said the cops have had other run ins with this same person.
I can just see me in a drag out fight with this person and get my butt sued.


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Re: 911 [Re: The Beav] #8499969
10 hours ago
10 hours ago
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Frazee, MN
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Should have called the dnr and told them you have been taking care of a few wolves and eagles. I bet they would been there in minutes. That sounds really horrible. Even if she was doped up they don't know that. Pretty crappy.

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Re: 911 [Re: The Beav] #8499974
10 hours ago
10 hours ago
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Wisconsin
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Wisconsin
Hopefully they slipped a tracking collar over her whilst still lying there . . keep an eye on her whereabouts. I'm sure if the Beav would have had a catch pole with him this might have had a different ending.

Originally Posted by Trap Setter
Mac that was my thought as well I've met The Beav although it was more than a couple years ago and I mean no disrespect but I wouldn't expect him to be able load a unresponsive person into a vechile wink by himself. He is a very experienced trapper and is still getting it done, but come on guys, really? He's not 65 anymore.


Don't underestimate the Beav. Ex-marine and still tough as nails.


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Re: 911 [Re: The Beav] #8499978
10 hours ago
10 hours ago
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South Ga - Almost Florida
Swamp Wolf Online happy
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South Ga - Almost Florida
I try to look at things from the viewpoint of what if that was a family member of mine lying there and no one stayed with them until help arrived.

Sadly, this is the nation we live in today......just do the minimum and if that dont work...then video it with your phone and leave...SMDH!


That is someone's daughter, maybe mother, sister, etc....nobody gives a crap...


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Re: 911 [Re: The Beav] #8499979
10 hours ago
10 hours ago
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Should have asked her if she wanted a ride to the ER. If she's lucid and can say "no" then I think it's a job for the cops. If she's gonna fight going to the ER it's a job for the cops. If she can respond but chooses not to, it's a job for the cops. If she can't respond, or if she says "yes," it's a ride to the ER if you can manage it.

Re: 911 [Re: The Beav] #8499988
9 hours ago
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Ohio
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Good Samaritan Law! Nothing new. Each to their own. But when if you may ever be in need of assistance. I pray someone helps.

Re: 911 [Re: Macthediver] #8499993
9 hours ago
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Originally Posted by Macthediver
Wow some you guys being pretty harsh on the old Beav.
My little sister spent 37 years as 911 dispatcher. People who have never done that job have no idea what it take. As she was getting closer to retirement. They had her training new hires. Which was hard to even find people who could pass the test. She had new people literally quit and walk out before their shift was done. Just couldn't hack it.
I see people all time here on Tman saying you get what you pay for or vote for.
Those 911 dispatcher are expected to get you help as soon as you ask. Yet my guess is your county treats them like secretary at the front desk with their pay and benefit. Then everyone Monday morning quart backs them. Our dispatcher center has not been able to be fully staffed for years. Can't get people to stay. Actually has an AI machine answer anything non emergency. Same with some town ship PD. Dont want to pay what cost for even one day time officer. So expect sheriff to cover them.

But anyways not Beavs fault if people in that area getting what they pay for. Dispatcher was probably doing her nails and cop in dount shop. Right?

No one else want to say it. I will. Should called ice said had illegal. I dont know Beavs politics. Maybe he just ask him self what would Trump do??

Mac

Im guessing if a county employee, a union member?


Just the right amount of whelm.
Re: 911 [Re: The Beav] #8500006
9 hours ago
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If someone with unknown injuries is breathing on their own and not in a dangerous environment like a fire. I dont think dragging them around and pitching them in trucks to haul off to the hospital is a good idea. If they happen to have some kind of spinal injury could make it worse.


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Re: 911 [Re: jv220] #8500023
8 hours ago
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The Beav has no Qualified Immunity, I don't blame him. He did his part, the emergency responders are the ones that let her down IMHO. Move her and hurt her and its a mess. An hour and a half is a ridiculous amount for an emergency situation.

Originally Posted by jv220
If someone with unknown injuries is breathing on their own and not in a dangerous environment like a fire. I dont think dragging them around and pitching them in trucks to haul off to the hospital is a good idea. If they happen to have some kind of spinal injury could make it worse.

Re: 911 [Re: The Beav] #8500026
8 hours ago
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She was responsive and told me to in so many words to get lost.
If I thought, she was in serious trouble I would have stayed. But since the nursery guy said she had been there for over an hour and had been moving around and told him to take a hike I figured I could leave.

I was working a job in Madison and was taking a break when I saw this guy kind of stumble as he was walking down the sidewalk. So as being a good Samaritan I walked up to the sidewalk and there was a clear blood trail on the sidewalk and as I approached him, I could see his tee shirt was covered in blood. I took hold of him and sat him down. Then he pulled a knife and told me to back off that he was trying to kill himself. This was before cell phones, so I ran into the building and call the law. I went back to stay with him till the law showed up. I was not going go for the knife, but I did stay. When the cop got there, I got the guys attention, and the cop got him pinned down and got the knife. He had lost some blood and was pretty weak, but the cop said the wounds weren't life threating.
So, you see I will respond if needed. And I was the only person that stayed with him and at least 10 people walked by and never even slowed down or offered to help.

In both situations I think I did the right thing.


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Re: 911 [Re: The Beav] #8500029
8 hours ago
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Dang that's crazy. Good thing you were there

and yes it makes sense to me now that you didn't take her to the hospital

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Re: 911 [Re: The Beav] #8500032
8 hours ago
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Tough crowd here. I don’t blame you for handling it the way you did Beav.

Given her response when the cops finally did show up, it sounds like you made the right move.


Eh...wot?

Re: 911 [Re: The Beav] #8500035
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I bet if she layed there that long , she shore got a case of the chiggers.

Re: 911 [Re: The Beav] #8500042
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Well Beav, thats a lot more information that could have stopped a whole lot of negativity towards your reactions from most on here !!

Might want to be a bit more open with the facts then just leave it look like you left an almost dead person !!


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Re: 911 [Re: The Beav] #8500076
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Yup!!!! You’re off the hook Beav!!!!!! You made the right call!!!

Re: 911 [Re: The Beav] #8500084
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Originally Posted by The Beav
So, your telling me I should have hauled her into my truck and took her to the ER. That seems to scream Lawsuit.
And I did call 911.
So later on, today I stopped and talked to that guy at the nursery, and he said that the cops came and hauled her away and I guess from what he said she put up a pretty good fight before they got her in the squad car. And he said the cops have had other run ins with this same person.
I can just see me in a drag out fight with this person and get my butt sued.


they probably knew who it was by the description , they know the frequent fliers

although Dane county does have a binder that changes monthly what is an isn't a dispatchable crime.
out former chief spent some time at the Dane county 911 looking at how they trained and handled stuff to get ideas for our dispatch , he thought the binder was interesting , the one they were looking up when he found out about the binder was stolen license plate , was it one or both to be a dispatchable to take a report or was it just an online report for one or both.


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Re: 911 [Re: The Beav] #8500208
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I absolutely wouldn't have posted this, bud.


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