OK it has taken me a while to do this, mainly because the mice etc have been cleaning out the tubes of the bait. I have had cleaned out tubes with no coon on the video for days. I have several to download so bear with me as it takes a bit.

Peanut butter is on right, marshmellows on left. As you can see the first coon just goes through with no response to them. It should be noted that NO coons have come through this spot since my last videos. This one that did failed to stall out and work the tubes.

Yesterday I added Coydog's super duper Cherrybomb lure to a third tube in the center. On the addition of that, numbers of coon after days of no activity in this area are working the area for food. They do not dig overly hard at the third tube, but my oh my look how they work the general area over better than any other wideo I have put up. Coydogs lure is a very intense loud cherry smell that permeates an area. I think I am learning that you can stall coons out and start thier front paws to working with a good lure, but as Rick Kaspar has told me you gotta give em something to eat too.

Here is first one, will take a bit for me to put the others on.

No surprise at all. I've been saying for a while....the best results I've ever had in my tinkering was with cherries. I had several coons swim out to muskrat sets in the middle of large beaver ponds when they were baited with marschino cherries.

John Epler makes a cherry coon bait as well. I have a few jars of it....but have not used it yet.

did ya notice the coon that starts to come into view but then backs out?

Now watch this. These next were all activity from the very same night. This is still the same location we have been watching for some time now, in fact you can see Gary's bullfrog in the water. At no time have we seen the coon working thier front feet like this, and stay in this area for so long. The addition of the strong cherry smell seems to have stalled them out much longer, and make them much more interested in finding food. In one of these videos you will see a coon fish a marshmellow out of the tube and just leave it lay.

very cool vids, thanx for sharing these with us, makes one think alot

Great footage Bruce! Notice how the coon never looks into the water while hunting for food. Why Ive always felt gadgets on the pan (crayfish, frogs, etc.) are a waste of time. Their sense of touch is nothing short of amazing. They can instantly detect by feel what is food and what is not. Right now the coon are really starting to feed on Elderberry, choke cherry, and pretty soon Hackberries. I would be interested in seeing what reaction you would get with Elderberries in the tube, and a shot of Perssimmon oil next to it and choke cherries with cherry essence in the other. A pocket set nearby would be interesting as well baited with just plain old fish. Clint L. has nothing on you Bruce. This is good stuff. Thanks

It was like once they got close, they couldn't help but get in the water and start feeling around.
Looks like that particular coon flipped it out of the tube to see if some real food was underneath it! lol

Computer is slow tonite. Two more after this one. Talk amongst yourselves

Heres the last one be back later tonite

Ive taken a few coon over the years and ive never felt marshmellows were very good bait.

this old stand by bait should work for coons. vanilla wafers

Good pictures, What kind of camera. Looked like a couple of pipe sets and a couple of blind water sets and you could move on.

Awsome post K-9. When I video the buckets, I find that with just bait, and no fish oil, I get limited visits. Add the fish oil or even "fox gland lure" I get multiple visits a night.

Would love to give that cherry stuff a try.

cool footage

THanks for putting these up!

Great video's!! Thank you

Good job B......so come season, you gonna set ONE or TWO traps there? LOL

Those cameras are a great learning tool, very interesting to be able to see just how the coon will react to certain baits/lures prior to season. How much do those cameras cost? Hey I never got a chance to thank you for hooking me up with your meat guy at the NTA. My partner and I found him working the gate and talked to him for about a hour and worked out all the details for the fall, very nice guy. Thanks again K9!!

thanks for posting.. to be honest given where I "would" have placed traps on those pipes, I think i would have missed about half of them given they stood further back when they stuck their hands in the pipe.
I did notice that they went for the pipe on the left more than the right. So marshmellows over PB.. hm....
I've tried Marshmellows in the past with zero success on them. wonder if I was using them too late in the season?

Cool videos. Coydogs Cherry bomb huh? Everything I own smells like that crap now.

Although I will not be trapping coyotes this year, I would like to see some coyote vids.

Cameron2, if your watching this post, I will be in contact soon to get me a couple of them cameras. That looks addictive.

I think the bait usage depends on your situation. In "natural" settings, I have found that marshmallows are not the best of baits baits to use. Though when I am trapping in town where coon are looking for freebies, the coon gobble them up and I have never not had a first night catch on nuisance calls where my marshmallows have not performed.

The closer you get to a natural bait for the area, the better off you will be.

K9... when can we get another installment of " COON 101"

Thanks, that was interesting...

Seems more like direction of travel had more barring on what they hit first... However, none of the vids showed a coon walking by and all of a sudden getting alarmed (lured) by a smell/scent... looks more curiosity in my opinion...

Definitely make you think different!

I've always thought marshmallows are better as a visual tool. They have very little odor. The coon in the one video pulled it out and didn't even eat it. Interesting stuff. It would be interesting to see some other baits used.

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Try the banana or strawberry marshmallows if you can find them.:)

Sorry been busy with meth cookers.

I have it on a coyote location now. However I am going to shift back to coon this weekend.

This fall, when we start getting good beat down coon trails, I plan to set fake 220 mockups on the trails at varying hieghts, and see what the coons do to go through, around, or over them. Also I want to try this with varying side guides etc, some open spots and some crowded spots, to see if there is a different reaction.

I also want to film some snare locations. I may even deer stop a snare so that it cannot close up, and put it in various scenarios to determine the value of chin ups, etc.

Right now our coon are in the corn and no great trails, but just an idea.

I enjoyed the videos.Not being picky or anything,but these coon are well fed,summertime coon.I feel that when food sources start to dry up and the weather turns colder,they would have a different reaction to the bait.I feel they would work all of the "sets" regardless of what is in the tubes as long as it has a food smell. JMO.

So whats the consensus for baiting grizzers in Nov.? If you had only one bait, what would it be?

Thanks for posting all these pics , it sure makes a guy think not to mention get even more reved up for season to get here.

Again, Excellent training material. Also sounds like you have some good ideas for upcoming training sessions...Thank You

Oh and good hunting on the job also...many thanks there. Tom

this high-tech stuff is so cool. its trapping season without taking the animal. bring us more!! :o)

I agree and plan to do some testing when they start pushing fur and taking on fat. It will be very very interesting to see the difference and compare.

I do not know what the best Griz lure is yet, as I want to see fall observations on coon that are more food oriented. I know from speaking with a guy who kills a lot with Griz, that fish is very good.

I know from my observations of PVC in the fall, that the coon dig it harder than they did now in these tests.

What I think I have learned:

-Gang sets gang sets gang sets.

-Some lures are better at stalling out coon, and when they stall out and get into "feeding mode" the front feet are doing the work water or dryland. Its no wonder flipped traps happen.

-Lure is good but I am a beleiver that bait is mandatory. I will see what the fall responses bring, but I am thinking lure stalls them at the set, but bait gets them reaching.

-A good "permeating" smell like Coydog's stalls them out and keeps them coming back looking for a food source.

-As I have always presumed, peanut butter is not a good coon bait as the mice will not leave it alone and it is gone before the coon have a chance to respond to it.

-I was surprised marshellows did not have a better response. Seemed the coon fiddled with them but only one wanted to eat them. Before I added the Coydog lure, one coon walked right by between the marshmellows and peanut butter, and did not stop to check them out. When the cherry smell was added, a feeding reponse totally came into play and both tubes got checked out, after days with no action at all.

I am sure there is more, but those thoughts come to mind.

I just went out and got my new friend the camera off a fence post where it has been this week. No animals to report other than a deer walked by. This was at a top notch fall location. However, the whole world is habitat and cover here, and the coyotes are in the corn fields. This coyote thing will get better soon with the harvest starts.

Also I do not think the Griz would be a good summertime trap, AND more importantly, I think anyone experimenting with thier own home made baits and lures would draw some false conclusions if doing so on summertime coon. I say that because I KNOW ProCoon and Trouble Finger are top notch coon lures, and they got a response but not as strong as I suspected.

Am thinking about hammering white PVC tubes pre season. Same diameter as griz. Get them used to reaching into white tube.

If you were doing this, say 60 locations, how would you design the test?

20 locations, one tube, fish
20 locations, two tubes, one fish one marshmallow
20 locations, three tubes, one fish, one marshmallow, one (?)

Lots of details to work out.

I am thinking lure and a glob of fish per tube. Each tube gets lure and bait.

I am gonna fool with some coyote gland lure on video too for coons, just to see what happens.

I agree with K9 that the Griz doesn't appear to be a good choice for a summertime trap in or close to large crop plots like corn.

May be a different ball game in a city ADC problem, or other areas where the coon don't have 1000's of acres of buffet at their fingertips.

K-9
Try putting the PVC about a foot or so into the water to see what the coons do rather than on the bank. It would be interesting to see how they work it. I know people set their pipe sets both ways and I am curious what way would be more productive. Thanks for posting these short clips I know it has helped a few of us!