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Re: Doomsday prepping
[Re: elsmasho82]
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01/07/26 09:19 AM
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The centralized banking system will fail,,,and/or be used against you
Probably the most important reason too study/learn/use bitcoin
Become a sovereign individual,,,, in a decentralized system
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Re: Doomsday prepping
[Re: elsmasho82]
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01/07/26 09:43 AM
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danny clifton
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we had to resort to barter and foreign currencies I would think barter is more important than foreign currency. A 3 pound bag of pinto beans could be very valuable for example, or even more value a half dozen cans of tuna fish or something that doesn't need cooked. I'm to old to fill a wheelbarrow and set off on a hundred mile journey. So keep a few jugs of gas around with stabil in it. I rotate them so its not on hand for a long time. Lawn mower boat motor 4 wheeler. If I need to I dump in my pickup and buy fresh. Get a bad ice storm some gas and a generator is mighty handy. If TEOTWAWKI happens us old folks wont last long. I am not going to build a bunker, get permission to buy military grade weapons etc. However a few essentials on hand just makes sense to me.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Doomsday prepping
[Re: danny clifton]
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01/07/26 09:58 AM
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we had to resort to barter and foreign currencies I would think barter is more important than foreign currency. A 3 pound bag of pinto beans could be very valuable for example, or even more value a half dozen cans of tuna fish or something that doesn't need cooked. I'm to old to fill a wheelbarrow and set off on a hundred mile journey. So keep a few jugs of gas around with stabil in it. I rotate them so its not on hand for a long time. Lawn mower boat motor 4 wheeler. If I need to I dump in my pickup and buy fresh. Get a bad ice storm some gas and a generator is mighty handy. If TEOTWAWKI happens us old folks wont last long. I am not going to build a bunker, get permission to buy military grade weapons etc. However a few essentials on hand just makes sense to me. A hatchet is military grade weapon . Every thing from rock and club to a 10 at one point military grade. You dont need full auto unless you have a fire team working with you and know how to shoot move and communicate. Its great for suppression keeping heads down but accuracy by volume is a poor plan if you are supplying your own ammo. Most of the peppers have some fantasy they will some how become tear 1 overnight. The better plan is to keep out of sight and avoid all people possible. People = problems. Very few can make it doing all the work needed alone and will need a small group. Even then few will last when supplying run out and cant be replaced. Many shtf prep people have a romantic idea of being alone and the last people around. That won't work like they think. I saw where the fbi study showed within a few weeks in a grid down collapse people in cities start eating their kids.
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Re: Doomsday prepping
[Re: elsmasho82]
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01/07/26 10:02 AM
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Like I said. I am to old to worry about TEOTWAWKI
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Doomsday prepping
[Re: elsmasho82]
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01/07/26 10:07 AM
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Of course a little cash, gold,silver, foreign currency,,,,something to barter with is very important,,, short term
So what happens when you suddenly have to relocate to a safer location? Permanently
Could be 10’s or thousands of miles, from your home,,, with only what you can carry,,,, and your never coming back
Your entire life savings remains behind,,, or is siezed,,, or taken by the government,,,, or,,,,or,,,,
Sounds like it happened to Tatiana,,,, it’s happening in Iran currently,,,, happened to canadains a few years
Self custody of bitcoin allows a person access to their money everywhere in the world 24-7
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Re: Doomsday prepping
[Re: spjones]
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01/07/26 10:22 AM
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Of course a little cash, gold,silver, foreign currency,,,,something to barter with is very important,,, short term
So what happens when you suddenly have to relocate to a safer location? Permanently
Could be 10’s or thousands of miles, from your home,,, with only what you can carry,,,, and your never coming back
Your entire life savings remains behind,,, or is siezed,,, or taken by the government,,,, or,,,,or,,,,
Sounds like it happened to Tatiana,,,, it’s happening in Iran currently,,,, happened to canadains a few years
Self custody of bitcoin allows a person access to their money everywhere in the world 24-7
Sounds like a solid argument to buy horses and mules. They run on grass, carry a load, can stay off of and avoid roads about as well as can be done other than being on foot.
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Re: Doomsday prepping
[Re: danny clifton]
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01/07/26 10:29 AM
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Like I said. I am to old to worry about TEOTWAWKI Its pointless to worry about things. Uses energy and distracts us.
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Re: Doomsday prepping
[Re: Tatiana]
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01/07/26 10:41 AM
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Its pointless to worry about things. Uses energy and distracts us.
Yes. And even the best plans I have made in my life out of the thousands. Not a single one has gone exactly how I planed. So plan make contingencies and be flexible knowing its not going to go smoothly. But it will be better then it would have been if we didn't have a plan. Planning is not worrying. Like Danny is take a more realistic humble approach. Im 45 with progressive debilitating disease. My outlook long term in a crap hit the fan situation is not great. My only concern is for my wife and kids. Crap happens sometimes life sucks but we roll with it the best we can with what we have to work with. At the end of the day our best tool is between our ears.
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Re: Doomsday prepping
[Re: Tatiana]
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01/07/26 10:48 AM
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I would think barter is more important than foreign currency.
Not really. Money has the liquidity that few other things have. Pinto beans are great, but finding those who need them and have what you need, without a middleman who'll rob you, is not fun. Plus there are expensive things you may need fast. Equipment is good but again, liquidity is lower than what you reasonably need. This is why I mentioned meds, ammo, ethanol and tobacco for the bad kind of doomsday scenarios, they are more or less compact, store well, and there is always demand for them  In the 90's, we had a period of true hyperinflation and for a few years, it was normal to see all prices in "provisional units" ( uslovnye edinitsy, abbreviated to u.e.) that were in fact U.S. dollars. The centralized banking system will fail,,,and/or be used against you
Probably the most important reason too study/learn/use bitcoin
Become a sovereign individual,,,, in a decentralized system
it's good if you have faith in your unalienable uninterrupted connection to blockchain. Imagine a (very, very hypothetical) scenario where you wake up one day, your computer shows that you have internet connection but all you can access are the websites of.... say... Google, the IRS, CNN, WSJ, Disney, DoorDash, and a website that sells bus and train tickets, your instant messengers won't send anything, discord shows a blank screen, facebook is down, and Google only shows a handful of strangely irrelevant results. You read the CNN website but most of the news are about funny cats and celebrities. You call your provider and they say everything is fine, so after a few days of excruciating uncertainty the government finally admits that there's been a new emergency law protecting you against growing terrorist threats from Chinese hackers, so it's all for your own good, you decide to outsmart them and try downloading and setting up a VPN client but can't find anything (later, you find out that that new law also forces Google to heavily moderate all search results), so you try to find it in the torrents and it still doesn't work for some reason and then your connection shuts down completely and you may even get a visit from several very tired-looking agents who have questions because all your traffic is now being inspected automatically (thanks to the deep packet inspection equipment that the government had been quietly forcing the providers to install and implement). And mobile internet doesn't work either because they're protecting your rights and freedoms from those Chinese weather balloons that are using the cell tower signals for navigation And it all happens before you get a chance to exercise your right to be a sovereign individual and flee the country. That's when cash comes in handy. Small bills  purely hypothetical... it never, ever happens in real life  If that where the case,,, ,,, you still haven’t lost anything You would just need to locate an uncorrupted access point with your 12 words(seed phrase) Which may take some time/effort There’s lots of different possibilities,,, Currency collapse is far more likely than the entire internet being corrupted It’s the reason you’re seeing the price of gold increase so much,,,,, and the price of bitcoin go from nothing to over a hundredk in 15 years
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Re: Doomsday prepping
[Re: elsmasho82]
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01/07/26 11:00 AM
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Prepping already saved my life.  A year and a half ago I was on a Prepping site and someone mentioned the vast majority are going to die in a long term dire situation, which is true. I said I already knew I would not make it very long. I was 60, massively overweight with two knees that needed to be replaced. Heck, I couldn't walk 100 feet without stopping to catch my breath and had little floaty things in my vision. I had tried for 4 years to lose enough weight that the Dr's would replace my knees, but nothing worked. A couple of people suggested I should try the Carnivore way of eating. I had never heard of it, but I like meat. So I started. Felt horrible the first couple of weeks, no energy what so ever, almost like I had the flu. Then I began to feel much better, started sleeping better. My joint pains were gone in 4 weeks. Knees still hurt really bad because they were bone on bone. I did not step on the scale in the first 2 months but it was obvious the weight was falling off. You could see it in my face and my baggy pants. Dropped 120 pounds in 6 months. Went from a size 52 pants to a size 40. Still have 80 pounds to go, but for the first time in a very long time, I know I will get there. I haven't felt this good in YEARS! Got the left knee replaced in Oct and I get the right one is getting done in early Feb. Recovery has gone way better than I could have hoped for! Literally changed my life and for the first time in a long time I think I might make it past 65. I have everything I need to stick around for quite some time if the grid goes down tomorrow and doesn't come back on for a while (long term)! One thing that is very handy is a hand pump for your well, if you have a somewhat shallow well. But if you are like me and your well is 720 feet deep, most hand pumps are useless. Look at making a well bucket out of a 3 foot section of 4 inch PVC pipe and a foot valve (one way valve), and some mule tape. If you set up a tripod and pulley, you'll be able to still get water from your well.
When things are Grim, become the Grim Reaper! Fred Moyer
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Re: Doomsday prepping
[Re: Machias]
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01/07/26 11:39 AM
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Prepping already saved my life.  A year and a half ago I was on a Prepping site and someone mentioned the vast majority are going to die in a long term dire situation, which is true. I said I already knew I would not make it very long. I was 60, massively overweight with two knees that needed to be replaced. Heck, I couldn't walk 100 feet without stopping to catch my breath and had little floaty things in my vision. I had tried for 4 years to lose enough weight that the Dr's would replace my knees, but nothing worked. A couple of people suggested I should try the Carnivore way of eating. I had never heard of it, but I like meat. So I started. Felt horrible the first couple of weeks, no energy what so ever, almost like I had the flu. Then I began to feel much better, started sleeping better. My joint pains were gone in 4 weeks. Knees still hurt really bad because they were bone on bone. I did not step on the scale in the first 2 months but it was obvious the weight was falling off. You could see it in my face and my baggy pants. Dropped 120 pounds in 6 months. Went from a size 52 pants to a size 40. Still have 80 pounds to go, but for the first time in a very long time, I know I will get there. I haven't felt this good in YEARS! Got the left knee replaced in Oct and I get the right one is getting done in early Feb. Recovery has gone way better than I could have hoped for! Literally changed my life and for the first time in a long time I think I might make it past 65. I have everything I need to stick around for quite some time if the grid goes down tomorrow and doesn't come back on for a while (long term)! One thing that is very handy is a hand pump for your well, if you have a somewhat shallow well. But if you are like me and your well is 720 feet deep, most hand pumps are useless. Look at making a well bucket out of a 3 foot section of 4 inch PVC pipe and a foot valve (one way valve), and some mule tape. If you set up a tripod and pulley, you'll be able to still get water from your well. CONGRATULATIONS!!!!! on the weight loss. Wife went lo carb because she was per diabetic/insulin resistant and wanted to try change in diet before thw medication the doctor pushed. I cut carbs to support her. She stalled out loosing weight after about 40 lb ao tried carnavor to change it up but it didn't last long mad her feel like crpa and caused some other issues. I didn't think I need to loose weight and was not trying to but lost about 25 lbs cutting carbs.
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Re: Doomsday prepping
[Re: OhioBoy]
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01/09/26 07:42 AM
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If you have a well and a generator going the first few days you can collect water right? I don't understand everyone worrying about water. What am I missing?
FYI you can put water in mason jars and can that too. You don't realize how much a family uses and how important water is. Not just for consumption but also sanitation. Its heavy and hard to transport. Also for us on this side of the Mississippi River we have lots of rivers and creeks. Out west its not the same way. Things you need to survive is the point of prepping. Water is right at #1
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Re: Doomsday prepping
[Re: elsmasho82]
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01/09/26 07:43 AM
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Not everyone has a well and generator though. I have neither. I do however have a pond, a means of distillation, plus I don't think it would be very hard to set up a water filtration system in a hurry either. For your method, OhioBoy, you'd also need to be sure you have enough empty containers to fill.
People look at you funny when you mention canning water, but to me it makes perfect sense. Those empty jars take up the same amount of room whether they are empty, or filled with water. For those that have qualms about reusing jar lids, this is the perfect place for that. Save your once-used lids and reuse them to can water with. If any seals fail all you've lost is a jar of water.
The devil's greatest trick isn't making us think he doesn't exist. It's flattering us. So we don't see..... the devil is us.
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Re: Doomsday prepping
[Re: elsmasho82]
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01/09/26 07:52 AM
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Get a few five gallon buckets. Put a drain in the bottom of one., then charcoal then sand, then gravel on top. Pour your water in and collect what comes out. Pour that water into another bucket with a ceramic water filter on the bottom. Ceramic will last longer filtering fairly clean water. Dont need to waste fuel distilling and then clean crud out of the still.
Last edited by danny clifton; 01/09/26 07:53 AM.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Doomsday prepping
[Re: elsmasho82]
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01/09/26 08:00 AM
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Danny.....ceramic water filter?
The charcoal/sand/gravel filter is what I had in mind when I mentioned filtration...
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The devil's greatest trick isn't making us think he doesn't exist. It's flattering us. So we don't see..... the devil is us.
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Re: Doomsday prepping
[Re: elsmasho82]
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01/09/26 08:05 AM
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Ceramic will remove harmful bacteria. Gravel sand charcoal leaves a lot in the water
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Doomsday prepping
[Re: danny clifton]
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01/09/26 08:06 AM
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Ceramic will remove harmful bacteria. Gravel sand charcoal leaves a lot in the water I mean...... where do I get one of those? What do I look for?
The devil's greatest trick isn't making us think he doesn't exist. It's flattering us. So we don't see..... the devil is us.
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