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Re: Forget Iran, it's heating up in Greenland [Re: warrior] #8547505
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Re: Forget Iran, it's heating up in Greenland [Re: warrior] #8547526
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I for one am tired of having the best military in the world to defend sniveling, whiny, unappreciative, leeches. Who can then fund their socialist medicine, governments, and people? All on the coat-tails of the United States taxpayers. canada, mexico, and europe should begin paying for their own defense and we get out. They can learn chinese and russian real quick. Screw-em all.

Re: Forget Iran, it's heating up in Greenland [Re: warrior] #8547585
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Trump might be playing a game to get others to arm Greenland to keep it from being over run by Russia and China. Talking about a military take over gets some other countries to spend their money to arm the place. If that is what he is doing it is saving us a lot of money and making the other countries pay their share in global defense......jk


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Re: Forget Iran, it's heating up in Greenland [Re: Manfred] #8547586
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Re: Forget Iran, it's heating up in Greenland [Re: warrior] #8547669
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I don't agree with Trump's slapping tariffs on all these countries unless they side with him. I would agree with negotiations giving the US military a stronger presence in Greenland plus additional forces such as the UK and some of the other NATO partners to keep China and Russia out. I would get out of the UN who hates America and consistently votes against us.


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Re: Forget Iran, it's heating up in Greenland [Re: Trapper7] #8547683
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Originally Posted by Trapper7
I don't agree with Trump's slapping tariffs on all these countries unless they side with him. I would agree with negotiations giving the US military a stronger presence in Greenland plus additional forces such as the UK and some of the other NATO partners to keep China and Russia out. I would get out of the UN who hates America and consistently votes against us.


Well said T7. I’m sure our allies Denmark/Greenland would be happy and willing to let us expand our existing military presence in Greenland and even gain valuable mineral rights etc. with a relatively simple ask. But, we need to make a big show out of it and try flex our muscles just for show like a bodybuilder who acts invincible. Whatever happened to humility? There’s always that trapper out there who catches more critters. Happy trapping! ScottW

Re: Forget Iran, it's heating up in Greenland [Re: ScottW] #8547692
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Originally Posted by ScottW
Originally Posted by Trapper7
I don't agree with Trump's slapping tariffs on all these countries unless they side with him. I would agree with negotiations giving the US military a stronger presence in Greenland plus additional forces such as the UK and some of the other NATO partners to keep China and Russia out. I would get out of the UN who hates America and consistently votes against us.


Well said T7. I’m sure our allies Denmark/Greenland would be happy and willing to let us expand our existing military presence in Greenland and even gain valuable mineral rights etc. with a relatively simple ask. But, we need to make a big show out of it and try flex our muscles just for show like a bodybuilder who acts invincible. Whatever happened to humility? There’s always that trapper out there who catches more critters. Happy trapping! ScottW


If all were so in that pie in that sky world. The simple truth is that we've been played by NATO for 75 years and carried the load while they benefited. But for the first fifty it served our interests keeping the Soviets in check. Europe has never been our allies, partners at times yes but never an ally.

And humility has never had a place in international affairs, just ask Poland. Heck even the Swiss back up their neutrality with a rifle in every hand.

I'm sure Denmark would let us, for a neverending cost of course. Just like the neverending cost of NATO. Trump is just redefining things into tangible assets here.


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Re: Forget Iran, it's heating up in Greenland [Re: warrior] #8547700
01/19/26 11:41 AM
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Greenland might be a distraction,that being said, I haven’t read this post.


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Re: Forget Iran, it's heating up in Greenland [Re: warrior] #8547701
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One must wonder if this giant show of aggression is simply some form of distraction.

Also, food for thought warrior, though I am sure you'll reject every aspect of it.

I think Nato has benefitted all, yes you've carried the load.

However, article 5 has only been enacted once, that was after 9/11. Nato nations actually did join the war on terror in many ways including actual combat, funding, 15 years of NATO patrol in the Mediterranean, even NATO aircrafts patrolling US skies. ........and more.
40000 Canadians fought in that war. When did 40000 Americans join Canada in battle or any nation for that matter, as a fellow NATO member?

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Re: Forget Iran, it's heating up in Greenland [Re: jk] #8547706
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Originally Posted by jk
Trump might be playing a game to get others to arm Greenland to keep it from being over run by Russia and China. Talking about a military take over gets some other countries to spend their money to arm the place. If that is what he is doing it is saving us a lot of money and making the other countries pay their share in global defense......jk

That's exactly what I was thinking, I'm sure it would be a lot easier to lease a base there from Greenland and construct the "GOLDEN DOME" from a couple bases that they would probably be happy to lease to the U.S. maybe in perpetuity This "TAKE IT nonsense would never in a million years make it through Congress anyway. So I'd say this is a chess game much more than "Saber rattling".

Re: Forget Iran, it's heating up in Greenland [Re: rvsask] #8547707
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Originally Posted by rvsask
One must wonder if this giant show of aggression is simply some form of distraction.

Also, food for thought warrior, though I am sure you'll reject every aspect of it.

I think Nato has benefitted all, yes you've carried the load.

However, article 5 has only been enacted once, that was after 9/11. Nato nations actually did join the war on terror in many ways including actual combat, funding, 15 years of NATO patrol in the Mediterranean, even NATO aircrafts patrolling US skies. ........and more.
40000 Canadians fought in that war. When did 40000 Americans join Canada in battle or any nation for that matter, as a fellow NATO member?

Give me an example of where 40,000 Canadian soldier went to fight where the U.S. did not engage first, or with even more troops? After the early 1800's. We're each others best allies and have been for almost two hundred years.

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Re: Forget Iran, it's heating up in Greenland [Re: rvsask] #8547711
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Originally Posted by rvsask
One must wonder if this giant show of aggression is simply some form of distraction.

Also, food for thought warrior, though I am sure you'll reject every aspect of it.

I think Nato has benefitted all, yes you've carried the load.

However, article 5 has only been enacted once, that was after 9/11. Nato nations actually did join the war on terror in many ways including actual combat, funding, 15 years of NATO patrol in the Mediterranean, even NATO aircrafts patrolling US skies. ........and more.
40000 Canadians fought in that war. When did 40000 Americans join Canada in battle or any nation for that matter, as a fellow NATO member?


Have you ever been attacked to be in need of 40000 Americans? You're welcome.

Matter of fact, I'd like to ask you about accepting with open arms criminal deserters from America, or maybe allowing your nation to be a trans shipping point for illegals and drugs. Just not neighborly if you ask me, much lees the actions of an ally.

Truth be told we've looked the other way on the whole corrupt lot of y'all so called allies.


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Re: Forget Iran, it's heating up in Greenland [Re: wy.wolfer] #8547716
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Originally Posted by wy.wolfer
Originally Posted by rvsask
One must wonder if this giant show of aggression is simply some form of distraction.

Also, food for thought warrior, though I am sure you'll reject every aspect of it.

I think Nato has benefitted all, yes you've carried the load.

However, article 5 has only been enacted once, that was after 9/11. Nato nations actually did join the war on terror in many ways including actual combat, funding, 15 years of NATO patrol in the Mediterranean, even NATO aircrafts patrolling US skies. ........and more.
40000 Canadians fought in that war. When did 40000 Americans join Canada in battle or any nation for that matter, as a fellow NATO member?

Give me an example of where 40,000 Canadian soldier went to fight where the U.S. did not engage first, or with even more troops? After the early 1800's.


Both WW 1 and WW 2 wolfer in terms of entering first. Anyhow, I'm not even talking that, I'm discussing since NATO was founded. There has only been one situation where a NATO member was attacked, that was you guys. Others were there to help and assist as the deal suggested they should. It's wild how everything is always such a pissing match. It's always like that. D Day is a great example, you guys took 2 of the 5 beaches but act like you took them all. The rest of the world doesn't sit back and act like you guys do nothing, in fact they acknowledge you do much heavy lifting. They just get tired of hearing how nobody else does anything. Like you'd swear 2/5 (Dday) is 100% but even grade 6's know it is 40. Happy Trapping.

Re: Forget Iran, it's heating up in Greenland [Re: warrior] #8547745
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We already have a base there. we had several at one time.

Re: Forget Iran, it's heating up in Greenland [Re: warrior] #8547748
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Originally Posted by warrior
Originally Posted by rvsask
One must wonder if this giant show of aggression is simply some form of distraction.

Also, food for thought warrior, though I am sure you'll reject every aspect of it.

I think Nato has benefitted all, yes you've carried the load.

However, article 5 has only been enacted once, that was after 9/11. Nato nations actually did join the war on terror in many ways including actual combat, funding, 15 years of NATO patrol in the Mediterranean, even NATO aircrafts patrolling US skies. ........and more.
40000 Canadians fought in that war. When did 40000 Americans join Canada in battle or any nation for that matter, as a fellow NATO member?


Have you ever been attacked to be in need of 40000 Americans? You're welcome.

Matter of fact, I'd like to ask you about accepting with open arms criminal deserters from America, or maybe allowing your nation to be a trans shipping point for illegals and drugs. Just not neighborly if you ask me, much lees the actions of an ally.

Truth be told we've looked the other way on the whole corrupt lot of y'all so called allies.



The second part of your post is actually kind of funny. Everyone who actually wants to know the truth , knows that more meth is cooked up by scrapes living all over your nation, or more opioids are delivered to your people from your people in the form of prescription pills than any amount of drugs entering from here. lol

Now I'm not even saying that nothing bad enters there via here but c'mon man, what you're saying is exactly as me saying that you have been a terrible ally and neighbor historically because cocaine gets here through you.

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Re: Forget Iran, it's heating up in Greenland [Re: warrior] #8547756
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Re: Forget Iran, it's heating up in Greenland [Re: warrior] #8547770
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There’s a few keyboard “warriors” that really got their heads up their arse. Why is a fringe minority of Americans intent on having the world against them? Must’ve been beaten as a child which probably carried on into adulthood, constantly being the victim and mad at the world. Get off your arse and do something, anything for yourself. Nobody owes you a dam thing, you’re a flunk because you never had the guts to stand up….lol
It seems Trumps goal is to deconstruct everything that happened after WW2.
Try stepping out of your slippers and take a look at the big picture. Guess who’s sitting cool and letting things play out.


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Re: Forget Iran, it's heating up in Greenland [Re: Shakeyjake] #8547792
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Originally Posted by Shakeyjake
[spoiler][/spoiler] Guess who’s sitting cool and letting things play out.


Alberta?


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Re: Forget Iran, it's heating up in Greenland [Re: warrior] #8547797
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I'm not sure whether I'm more fascinated or shocked by how many Americans seem to live on their own planet with their own truths, consistently ignoring all the information from the world around them.

The 1951 Greenland Agreement, to my knowledge, was never revoked. It was solely the US's decision to drastically reduce its bases and troops there, from at least 17 to just one.

And they had good reason: After World War II, there was never a threat to Greenland from other nations, and there still isn't.

The US has reduced its Arctic troops to a minimum. How many are there now? 8,000? 10,000? Finland alone has three times that many.

Even Germany still has about 4,000, even though we have no other claim to the Arctic than through the alliance.

The EU countries together have about 25 icebreakers.

How many do the US still have? Five?

I have no idea what game Trump is playing and why, no idea why he's breaking with all of America's friends and wants to isolate the US.

I think that's very stupid in the long run.

It may be that a country of only 350 million people can survive on its own in a world with more than 8 billion people. It's easier with friends and partners.

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And folks wonder why we stayed out of WW1 until their problems started sinking our boats. Didn't want to repeat it so stayed out of the next one until our boats got touched again. So we tried to fix things where nobody is touching anybody else's boats.

Bunch of stinking ingrates.


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