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Re: Sanctuary cities, non-political please [Re: beaverpeeler] #8557953
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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
A hypothetical for ya: Let's say you have a neighbor with a nice family and you get along great with them. Your kids play with theirs, etc. guy holds down a job that typically has lots of turnover, pays his taxes, doesn't cause problems.

Now you find out he came here 30 years ago illegally.

Do you turn him in to ICE and watch from your driveway while they haul him off?

I assume most on here would do just that...but if you didn't have the stomach for it you might just be a "sanctuaryist".





30 Years? Why didn't he apply for citizenship?
Excuse is because he's illegal and would be deported?
Well he should of thought of that 31 years ago.


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Re: Sanctuary cities, non-political please [Re: Law Dog] #8557957
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Originally Posted by Law Dog
Illegal is illegal no matter how you try to sell it even with all my White Privilege I’ve never been able to pick and choose the laws I get to follow or not follow why would people that violated our borders get to do so then? Thats nuts!

We all pick and choose what laws to follow every day. Some are followed, not because they are laws, but because they align with our moral code. Those things we wouldn't do even without a law. Others are followed because we decided that the consequences aren't worth it. At the same time some may be ignored because to follow them would violate a moral code that we hold greater than any legislation.

That doesn't mean that we don't have to pay the consequences for those we choose to ignore.

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Re: Sanctuary cities, non-political please [Re: hippie] #8557963
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Way over my head....what happens in the city is beyond my vote

Re: Sanctuary cities, non-political please [Re: Ohio Wolverine] #8557971
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Originally Posted by Ohio Wolverine
Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
A hypothetical for ya: Let's say you have a neighbor with a nice family and you get along great with them. Your kids play with theirs, etc. guy holds down a job that typically has lots of turnover, pays his taxes, doesn't cause problems.

Now you find out he came here 30 years ago illegally.

Do you turn him in to ICE and watch from your driveway while they haul him off?

I assume most on here would do just that...but if you didn't have the stomach for it you might just be a "sanctuaryist".





30 Years? Why didn't he apply for citizenship?
Excuse is because he's illegal and would be deported?
Well he should of thought of that 31 years ago.


Precisely ! That should've been step #1.


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Re: Sanctuary cities, non-political please [Re: hippie] #8557982
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so from a view point from outside the united states it looks like the protests are more about how the "ICE" units are going about it,from grabbing peoples phones because they are filming them(violates your first amendment) to the deportation without due process (fourth amendment) here in Canada we went through something similar during COVID and now the courts have ruled that the govt went above and beyond the law they used to arrest people and seize property and not disagreeing with any of you just how people from outside looking in see it lots of these people where born in the states for example the 5 year old boy that was being held by ICE and now has been ordered by a federal judge to be released even the native people of Canada have been told to stay out of the states by their leaders

Re: Sanctuary cities, non-political please [Re: hippie] #8557998
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If I snuck into Canada what would happen to me then? Seriously what’s your thoughts on the procedures that would take place? What countries would not have any issues with it?


Keep in mind people are reacting to the narratives that are being created to fit the agendas the MSM support it has nothing to do with the truth. When was the last time the MSM said that ICE was doing the job they were designed to do? There’s a reason for that.

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Re: Sanctuary cities, non-political please [Re: Law Dog] #8558003
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Originally Posted by Law Dog
If I snuck into Canada what would happen to me then? Seriously what’s your thoughts on the procedures that would take place? What countries would not have any issues with it?


Add in for context that you've already violated other laws of Canada ,you're out on bond but haven't gone to any other hearings ,so an immigration adjudicator has signed off on your removal.


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Re: Sanctuary cities, non-political please [Re: Law Dog] #8558006
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Originally Posted by Law Dog
If I snuck into Canada what would happen to me then? Seriously what’s your thoughts on the procedures that would take place? What countries would not have any issues with it?


If you were Indian or Chinese, they would just assume you were one of the new owners.

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Re: Sanctuary cities, non-political please [Re: hippie] #8558009
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Re: Sanctuary cities, non-political please [Re: hippie] #8558010
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Re: Sanctuary cities, non-political please [Re: beaverpeeler] #8558017
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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
Get out there and procreate then Savell, with our falling birth rate we're gonna be short of ditch diggers, chicken pluckers and berry pickers.

Then advocate for a legal remedy. We used to have a guest-worker program called the Bracero Program.

Institutional lawbreaking isn't a good moral foundation for a society.

Re: Sanctuary cities, non-political please [Re: Law Dog] #8558022
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Originally Posted by Law Dog
If I snuck into Canada what would happen to me then? Seriously what’s your thoughts on the procedures that would take place? What countries would not have any issues with it?


oh im not agreeing that any immigration procedure is correct and Canada has its own problems but the way the reports are coming out of the states its basically the ICE units driving down the street and if you look like a foreigner than you are detained basically what the Nazis did to the jews Canada and the USA has shared a very relaxed border for many years but lots of questions can be raised about peoples origins for example my grandfather immigrated to the USA from the Ukraine in 1908 and than moved to Canada because of his job and my grandmother but everytime they went back to the USA to visit family he was hassled because of the cold war and the other side of my family has been in north america since 1756

Re: Sanctuary cities, non-political please [Re: NorthwesternYote] #8558023
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Originally Posted by NorthwesternYote
Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
Get out there and procreate then Savell, with our falling birth rate we're gonna be short of ditch diggers, chicken pluckers and berry pickers.

Then advocate for a legal remedy. We used to have a guest-worker program called the Bracero Program.

Institutional lawbreaking isn't a good moral foundation for a society.


… I already gave that third worldist the answer

… he didn’t respond frown


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Re: Sanctuary cities, non-political please [Re: k9-hunter] #8558047
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Originally Posted by k9-hunter
so from a view point from outside the united states it looks like the protests are more about how the "ICE" units are going about it,from grabbing peoples phones because they are filming them(violates your first amendment) to the deportation without due process (fourth amendment) here in Canada we went through something similar during COVID and now the courts have ruled that the govt went above and beyond the law they used to arrest people and seize property and not disagreeing with any of you just how people from outside looking in see it lots of these people where born in the states for example the 5 year old boy that was being held by ICE and now has been ordered by a federal judge to be released even the native people of Canada have been told to stay out of the states by their leaders



From what I understand, the 5 year old was left by his father as he ran from ICE!
They tried to take him to his home, and even though there were people there, they wouldn't answer the door.
Were they all illegal also?
What were they supposed to do, just leave the 5 year old on the steps?
Mighty cold there right now.
I wonder to whom he's to be released to?
Why just the native people from Canada?
I take it you think just because of their skin color?
I feel you watch too much CNN and MSNBC !
I have a brother in Germany, he's lived there for at least 50 years, and he told me the only news they get is CNN.
I even find that hard to believe, but wouldn't doubt it the way Germany has turned into a Muslim country.


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Re: Sanctuary cities, non-political please [Re: k9-hunter] #8558054
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Originally Posted by k9-hunter
Originally Posted by Law Dog
If I snuck into Canada what would happen to me then? Seriously what’s your thoughts on the procedures that would take place? What countries would not have any issues with it?


oh im not agreeing that any immigration procedure is correct and Canada has its own problems but the way the reports are coming out of the states its basically the ICE units driving down the street and if you look like a foreigner than you are detained basically what the Nazis did to the jews Canada and the USA has shared a very relaxed border for many years but lots of questions can be raised about peoples origins for example my grandfather immigrated to the USA from the Ukraine in 1908 and than moved to Canada because of his job and my grandmother but everytime they went back to the USA to visit family he was hassled because of the cold war and the other side of my family has been in north america since 1756



Again parroting the MSM lies over and over will not make it the truth if ICE is operating in many other cities why is Mnpls such a problem then? First try thinking for yourself then stay in your own lane if you have issues with your immigration system fix yours first.

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Re: Sanctuary cities, non-political please [Re: hippie] #8558058
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Originally Posted by hippie
Any ideas on why these sanctuary areas are legal?



They are not. I can think of many things the federal government does for each and every state. For states with sanctuary cities those federal aides should cease.
Also any sanctuary cities who harbor illegals, illegals who go on to commit crimes, those cities should be held accountable and suffer financial recourse from effected individuals and other states.

Osky



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Re: Sanctuary cities, non-political please [Re: hippie] #8558078
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Im with ya on that one Osky


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Re: Sanctuary cities, non-political please [Re: hippie] #8558085
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Could do cities of refuge as in the bible. Stay in that city and you're safe, leave and all bets are off.

Re: Sanctuary cities, non-political please [Re: Osky] #8558086
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Originally Posted by Osky
Originally Posted by hippie
Any ideas on why these sanctuary areas are legal?



They are not. I can think of many things the federal government does for each and every state. For states with sanctuary cities those federal aides should cease.
Also any sanctuary cities who harbor illegals, illegals who go on to commit crimes, those cities should be held accountable and suffer financial recourse from effected individuals and other states.

Osky


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… just given lip service


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Re: Sanctuary cities, non-political please [Re: Ohio Wolverine] #8558158
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Originally Posted by Ohio Wolverine
Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
A hypothetical for ya: Let's say you have a neighbor with a nice family and you get along great with them. Your kids play with theirs, etc. guy holds down a job that typically has lots of turnover, pays his taxes, doesn't cause problems.

Now you find out he came here 30 years ago illegally.

Do you turn him in to ICE and watch from your driveway while they haul him off?

I assume most on here would do just that...but if you didn't have the stomach for it you might just be a "sanctuaryist".





30 Years? Why didn't he apply for citizenship?
Excuse is because he's illegal and would be deported?
Well he should of thought of that 31 years ago.

Maybe this one didn't want to marry a fat white woman to qualify?


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