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The New York riots, 1863 #8562089
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Was listening to a civil war podcast yesterday while finishing fur,,, and the New York riots came up.
Although I remembered the highlights of it… this podcast covered some things I didn’t know.
Black folks were actually hunted down and were killed in various ways of public executions,,, some were hanged, some were even set on fire and burned alive.
The riots were pretty much over the draft, and things were made even worse if an individual had 300 dollars they could find a substitute… which was then called a rich man’s war and a poor man’s fight.

Blaming it on the black people… and saying if the blacks wanted freedom, they should go do it themselves.
Even abolitionists were targeted,,,
Federal armies were brought in and yup,,, they actually shot and killed rioters.
Rioters charged the army several times,, even into the gunfire.
There was even bets going on, who would win particular skirmishes.
Absolutely wild.

I can’t even imagine how the news would handle stuff like that today.


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Re: The New York riots, 1863 [Re: foxkidd44] #8562098
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Just watch what's happening in Minnesota - they's a just warming up....


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Re: The New York riots, 1863 [Re: foxkidd44] #8562104
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Now do the elected Maryland government's vote on seccession?

Lincoln was a dictator and violator of the Constitution.


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Re: The New York riots, 1863 [Re: foxkidd44] #8562121
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Rubber bullets, sonic wave technology, dogs, water hoses, etc...need to stop these protesters from setting the tone for future events.
What happened to peaceful protests as assigned by law? What a mess!

Re: The New York riots, 1863 [Re: foxkidd44] #8562184
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11 blacks were killed and 108 or 109 whites, in a predominantly black area containing tens of thousands of blacks. You are seeing history being written. Most articles now say 119 or 120 were killed, followed by the word blacks in the next sentence, which is a deliberate attempt to trick the readers into inferring the killed were all black. The blacks rioted too and suffered much less for it.

Overall the riots had very little to do with race. They were almost entirely over working class, white immigrant men angered over being drafted for a war they didn't support.

Keith

Re: The New York riots, 1863 [Re: KeithC] #8562320
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Originally Posted by KeithC

Overall the riots had very little to do with race. They were almost entirely over working class, white immigrant men angered over being drafted for a war they didn't support.

Keith


Compared to not a single such riot in the south. Not even among the free blacks among which there was a strong measure of support for the Confederacy to include volunteering to fight.

Tell us again how Lincoln "saved" the union?


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Re: The New York riots, 1863 [Re: foxkidd44] #8562686
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Warrior, you certainly made an interesting point.
There wasn’t any riots that I’m aware of during that period.


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The Southern Bread Riots took place in 1863 too, in a lot of major Southern cities including Salisbury, Mobile, High Point, Raleigh, Petersburg and even Richmond.

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Apparently, The New York Times kept their building from being burned by the mob by the staff using gatling guns they happened to have. The second amendment was a little broader back then I guess.

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