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Re: Question for Christians and an explanation [Re: Bear Tracker] #8585321
03/18/26 10:04 PM
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And , as CS Lewis states....Religion is like walking down a hallway with open doors. The doors are open if you wish to walk in. Only you can choose which one to walk in.

Re: Question for Christians and an explanation [Re: Bear Tracker] #8585335
03/18/26 10:21 PM
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Very true. I find it interesting that every sector of Christianity still has to re-write the Bible to their liking.


Life ain't supposed to be easy.
Re: Question for Christians and an explanation [Re: Gary Benson] #8585353
03/18/26 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Gary Benson
Very true. I find it interesting that every sector of Christianity still has to re-write the Bible to their liking.



Not true, they may stray, but they can't rewrite the bible.
Again no one is perfect, we have to judge ourselves, and not judge others.
There's a reason for laws, and judges, same as tax collectors.
We may not like or agree, but they were appointed, and lets' let God deal with them.
Same as turn the other cheek, that was in the old testament , so thank God he still allows warriors !
It's confusing at times, but gets better as you believe more in Jesus.
Free will is the key.
Your heart is what it is.
If you believe , you will be forgiven.

Last edited by Ohio Wolverine; 03/18/26 10:57 PM.

We have met the enemy and the enemy is us!
Re: Question for Christians and an explanation [Re: Ohio Wolverine] #8585363
03/18/26 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Ohio Wolverine
There will always be pretenders that preach, and are worse than even non Christians.
Only thing to remember is Jesus is the way!
God gave each of us free will.
Believe what you want!

As far as God in the old testament , saying kill all unbelievers.
Was changed when the flood , and later when Jesus rewrote the Bible, in the New Testament .
No one is perfect, not even Jesus.
That's why God put Jesus on earth to save us!
And the old Testament is just a prelude to Christianity.

Actually, Jesus lived a sinless life.


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Re: Question for Christians and an explanation [Re: Bear Tracker] #8585366
03/18/26 11:16 PM
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We are called to judge what is evil from what is good.

And what part of the Bible did God say to kill the unbelievers?


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Re: Question for Christians and an explanation [Re: mink99] #8585368
03/18/26 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by mink99
Originally Posted by Ohio Wolverine
There will always be pretenders that preach, and are worse than even non Christians.
Only thing to remember is Jesus is the way!
God gave each of us free will.
Believe what you want!

As far as God in the old testament , saying kill all unbelievers.
Was changed when the flood , and later when Jesus rewrote the Bible, in the New Testament .
No one is perfect, not even Jesus.
That's why God put Jesus on earth to save us!
And the old Testament is just a prelude to Christianity.

Actually, Jesus lived a sinless life.


You don't remember the temple ? Where he destroyed the tables of merchants and theives?
Doing so in the Holy Temple?


We have met the enemy and the enemy is us!
Re: Question for Christians and an explanation [Re: Bear Tracker] #8585378
03/18/26 11:35 PM
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I’m gonna kick back and watch over 44,000 different serpents swallow their own tails on this one .


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Re: Question for Christians and an explanation [Re: cattails] #8585379
03/18/26 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by cattails
And , as CS Lewis states....Religion is like walking down a hallway with open doors. The doors are open if you wish to walk in. Only you can choose which one to walk in.


Lewis was an Anglican. Which brought us this …[Linked Image]


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Re: Question for Christians and an explanation [Re: Ohio Wolverine] #8585383
03/18/26 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Ohio Wolverine
Originally Posted by mink99

Actually, Jesus lived a sinless life.


You don't remember the temple ? Where he destroyed the tables of merchants and theives?
Doing so in the Holy Temple?


who determined that His actions were a sin? You?

Actually, this is one of my favorite stories from the Bible. It proves (since Jesus was incapable of sinning), that there *IS* such a thing as Righteous Anger!

if you believe that Jesus sinned, then you are denyng Who He said He is.

Re: Question for Christians and an explanation [Re: white marlin] #8585398
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Righteous Anger ?
When you destroy another's property?
If I remember right, that parable was to show that Jesus was human.


We have met the enemy and the enemy is us!
Re: Question for Christians and an explanation [Re: Bear Tracker] #8585464
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No, Jesus was in the right flipping tables as the merchants were basically defacing the temple by cheating and doing sinful things.

We must remember Jesus walked a perfect life preaching and teaching. I believe he was God in the flesh.

As to different denominations of Christianity, we as Christians must be very careful who we follow. Those denominations that push everything is okay and (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) doesn't exist probably should be avoided.


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Re: Question for Christians and an explanation [Re: Ohio Wolverine] #8585487
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Originally Posted by Ohio Wolverine
Righteous Anger ?
When you destroy another's property?
If I remember right, that parable was to show that Jesus was human.


it wasn't a parable.

it happened.

Jesus didn't sin.

If He did, He isn't Who He said He is.

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Re: Question for Christians and an explanation [Re: Wild_Idaho] #8585588
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Originally Posted by Wild_Idaho
I very much know God is real and I do see what you are saying with regards to judging. I see it all the time. What I keep in the forefront of my mind is Matthew 7:1 "Do not judge, that you be not judged." It is not our place to judge. With that said, however, we are humans and sinners by nature.

Verse 2 goes on to say: "For as you judge, so shall you be judged." I kinda figure rather than for me to judge, it's God's problem, not mine.
Someone once said, When you get to heaven, you might be surprised at who is there and even more surprised at who isn't.


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Re: Question for Christians and an explanation [Re: Ohio Wolverine] #8585595
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Originally Posted by Ohio Wolverine
Righteous Anger ?
When you destroy another's property?
If I remember right, that parable was to show that Jesus was human.

I think your off base OW. Jesus was the spotless Lamb. If he was just another sinner like us he couldn't have paid the debt for all the rest of us. Can u as a sinner pay the debt for your children if u wanted?

Re: Question for Christians and an explanation [Re: Bear Tracker] #8585597
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[Linked Image]

Snap shot of just a smaller number of verses that point to Jesus being without sin

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Re: Question for Christians and an explanation [Re: Ohio Wolverine] #8585599
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Originally Posted by Ohio Wolverine
Originally Posted by Gary Benson
Very true. I find it interesting that every sector of Christianity still has to re-write the Bible to their liking.



Not true, they may stray, but they can't rewrite the bible.
Again no one is perfect, we have to judge ourselves, and not judge others.
There's a reason for laws, and judges, same as tax collectors.
We may not like or agree, but they were appointed, and lets' let God deal with them.
Same as turn the other cheek, that was in the old testament , so thank God he still allows warriors !
It's confusing at times, but gets better as you believe more in Jesus.
Free will is the key.
Your heart is what it is.
If you believe , you will be forgiven.

Some of the newer versions of the bible have changed the wording, but not the meaning. There are some non-Christian churches who have re-written the bible and changed certain passages to fit their own theologies such as the Watchtower Society. They renamed their writings to the New World Translation which totally changes the truth in many areas. A good example would be John chapter 10 where Jesus says, "Before Abraham was I AM." Since they don't believe Jesus was god, they had to rewrite that section in their new bible as though it never happened almost.

John's gospel references Jesus as god in the flesh many times. It's almost the theme of the gospel. In chapter one, John writes: "In beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God. Later, verse 14: "And the Word became flesh and dwell among us." How can that not be Jesus he's referring to? All true Christian religions may have slightly rewritten it in a more modern, understandable form, but the meaning remained the same. I have 4 different bibles, Duoay-Rheims (Catholic), 2 Protestant, Vulgate editions. On those passages, the wording is slightly different, but the meaning is still the same with all of them.


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Re: Question for Christians and an explanation [Re: Ohio Wolverine] #8585624
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Originally Posted by Ohio Wolverine
There will always be pretenders that preach, and are worse than even non Christians.
Only thing to remember is Jesus is the way!
God gave each of us free will.
Believe what you want!

As far as God in the old testament , saying kill all unbelievers.
Was changed when the flood , and later when Jesus rewrote the Bible, in the New Testament .
No one is perfect, not even Jesus.
That's why God put Jesus on earth to save us!
And the old Testament is just a prelude to Christianity.



You have some messed up thoughts. Sorry but there was most certainly old testament Christians and please elaborate on the imperfections of Jesus - I would like to hear them from you.

Re: Question for Christians and an explanation [Re: Bear Tracker] #8585632
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Sorry, I jumped ahead without reading Yes Sir - he quoted the scriptures about Jesus being sinless

Re: Question for Christians and an explanation [Re: Bear Tracker] #8585633
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Originally Posted by Bear Tracker
I am curious on some of your thoughts.
Well, I was not sure how to title this or ask so I just will go for it. I have read many threads over the years and had many questions but do not wade into them. This one is based from the discussion with the thread: Divorced and alone in old age? I did not want to interrupt his thread.

Towards the end of that thread discussion, it turned toward calling out non-christians or non-chrsitian beliefs.
This is where my question comes in.

With so many different views of a Christian (even on Trapperman) and what beliefs one has, how is that determined? How is that because of the Bible you read, and what you believe is the correct beliefs? (different Bibles, different wording, interpreted different ways, different religions) How are you to judge others and what they believe? In my careers dealing with the public I have had so called Christians call out my faith or question my beliefs. They have no idea of what I believe and my relationship with God. But their behaviors are very what I would consider Unchristian.
Thoughts ?


Didn’t Jesus say that the Holy Spirit would be here to guide us?


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Re: Question for Christians and an explanation [Re: HobbieTrapper] #8585648
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Originally Posted by HobbieTrapper
Originally Posted by Bear Tracker
I am curious on some of your thoughts.
Well, I was not sure how to title this or ask so I just will go for it. I have read many threads over the years and had many questions but do not wade into them. This one is based from the discussion with the thread: Divorced and alone in old age? I did not want to interrupt his thread.

Towards the end of that thread discussion, it turned toward calling out non-christians or non-chrsitian beliefs.
This is where my question comes in.

With so many different views of a Christian (even on Trapperman) and what beliefs one has, how is that determined? How is that because of the Bible you read, and what you believe is the correct beliefs? (different Bibles, different wording, interpreted different ways, different religions) How are you to judge others and what they believe? In my careers dealing with the public I have had so called Christians call out my faith or question my beliefs. They have no idea of what I believe and my relationship with God. But their behaviors are very what I would consider Unchristian.
Thoughts ?


Didn’t Jesus say that the Holy Spirit would be here to guide us?

Very much under valued in Christianity here in these times

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