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Re: Modern Matthew 11:5 [Re: Aaron Proffitt] #8590027
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Originally Posted by Aaron Proffitt
Did you know that prior to WW1, folks who needed a colostomy usually died. The practice became more common after WW1 . It wouldn’t be until the 1950’s that a Dutch nurse came up with the disposable system we have today.

Makes me think of how many burials at sea and unmarked graves occurred after someone reported a bellyache and fever. Within 72 hours they’ll go full on septic and die.

Today ? Might be a few days hospitalization. Might be more . But we have the medical knowledge to address it . Surgical and pharmaceutical.

Still doesn’t diminish our Father. He’s right in the middle of it all.


Aaron, should humans get cancer?

This thread is going full spectrum..


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Re: Modern Matthew 11:5 [Re: grumley701] #8590028
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Originally Posted by grumley701
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Also.... I suppose I may have a few feminist ideas in my head, as I am sure most all women do if they are honest, but I in NO WAY consider myself a feminist. I'm quite traditional in most things....


I find the comment of "most things" quite funny..lol, no shade though.. we are a product of our environment until we decide not to be.. and to bring full circle I think that was Sheepdog was trying to attempt.


That's just because you don't know me other than my posts on here. Those that know me well would know exactly what I mean.


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Re: Modern Matthew 11:5 [Re: KeithC] #8590029
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Yep…in response to Grum’s question.

Why SHOULDN’T we get cancer ? We were born into a sinful world, borne from and with original sin.
Cancer is one of the many we’ve inherited. I hate it. I hate the fact we have to endure it. But it is a consequence.

Incidentally, cancer isn’t always the assumed death sentence, anymore. Still a very scary diagnosis. But not always condemnation, either.


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Re: Modern Matthew 11:5 [Re: KeithC] #8590030
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Aaron, would confederates have had access to opium? They didn't even have access to food, lol.


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Re: Modern Matthew 11:5 [Re: grumley701] #8590032
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Originally Posted by grumley701
Originally Posted by Aaron Proffitt
Did you know that prior to WW1, folks who needed a colostomy usually died. The practice became more common after WW1 . It wouldn’t be until the 1950’s that a Dutch nurse came up with the disposable system we have today.

Makes me think of how many burials at sea and unmarked graves occurred after someone reported a bellyache and fever. Within 72 hours they’ll go full on septic and die.

Today ? Might be a few days hospitalization. Might be more . But we have the medical knowledge to address it . Surgical and pharmaceutical.

Still doesn’t diminish our Father. He’s right in the middle of it all.


Aaron, should humans get cancer?

This thread is going full spectrum..



Funny you say that... when you said earlier about everything in our environment being out to kill us...... well, that must be part of God's plan then, right?


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Re: Modern Matthew 11:5 [Re: KeithC] #8590034
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Yote I can claim the same, Grum's post have a qualifier ..


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Re: Modern Matthew 11:5 [Re: KeithC] #8590035
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Yote, with quoting a bunch of scripture which would mean nothing to you (yeah, that's a dig) there's faults gods on this earth... lower case.. g


this dimension isn't my home.. I'm a renter here,

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Re: Modern Matthew 11:5 [Re: yotetrapper30] #8590036
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Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
Aaron, would confederates have had access to opium? They didn't even have access to food, lol.


They actually did ! Through trade routes, they actually had more .


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Originally Posted by Aaron Proffitt
Yep…in response to Grum’s question.

Why SHOULDN’T we get cancer ? We were born into a sinful world, borne from and with original sin.
Cancer is one of the many we’ve inherited. I hate it. I hate the fact we have to endure it. But it is a consequence.

Incidentally, cancer isn’t always the assumed death sentence, anymore. Still a very scary diagnosis. But not always condemnation, either.


I edited my earlier response.


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Re: Modern Matthew 11:5 [Re: KeithC] #8590038
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Honest question, is cancer the will of the Father? Is it so we can learn a lessen? Is it punishment? I just want to know...

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Re: Modern Matthew 11:5 [Re: Aaron Proffitt] #8590039
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Originally Posted by Aaron Proffitt
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Aaron, would confederates have had access to opium? They didn't even have access to food, lol.


They actually did ! Through trade routes, they actually had more .


Interesting. I've read more about the civil war than probably any other war but never came across anything about opium. Granted, even my reading of civil war material is not all that extensive. I'll remember that for if it ever comes up on Jeopardy, lol.


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Re: Modern Matthew 11:5 [Re: grumley701] #8590040
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Originally Posted by grumley701
Yote, with quoting a bunch of scripture which would mean nothing to you (yeah, that's a dig) there's faults gods on this earth... lower case.. g


this dimension isn't my home.. I'm a renter here,


There is.... what? faults gods? What are those?


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Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
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Yote, with quoting a bunch of scripture which would mean nothing to you (yeah, that's a dig) there's faults gods on this earth... lower case.. g


this dimension isn't my home.. I'm a renter here,


There is.... what? faults gods? What are those?


My first question is how do you describe belief to the unbelieving?

Have you heard of Lucifer? see now where we're going... not a conversation I want to have with a post christian (lower case c)..


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Originally Posted by grumley701
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You're not going to like my answer,
how about we understand our quality's, our abilities? Understanding the difference between the sexes? There's a difference from serving as a magistrate and a grunt on the front lines.. To honest, you've been lied to through you life, the only rights you have are from men's benevolence..


That's tough one... but am I wrong?


Now, I skipped this question, until you answered mine but now that you did... I will.

I suppose in the truest since, you are not wrong. I find benevolence to be a rather arrogant way to put it though. Most men are certainly physically stronger than most women. That is a simple fact of science. If men did not want women to work..... or vote..... or join the military..... they could have simply beat us into submission and kept us locked in a bedroom....que The Yellow Wallpaper here..... so in that context... you are right.

But ya know.... I sorta like my rights. Some I would give up if I believed it was for the betterment of the country. But some I certainly would not.... and if anyone, man or woman, wants to take them from me.... well they better be a better shot than I am. grin


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Re: Modern Matthew 11:5 [Re: KeithC] #8590045
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Originally Posted by grumley701
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There is.... what? faults gods? What are those?


My first question is how do you describe belief to the unbelieving?

Have you heard of Lucifer? see now where we're going... not a conversation I want to have with a post christian (lower case c)..


OK, so demons, then. I had just never heard the term faults gods before.....


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Ohhhhhhhhh did you mean FALSE gods????


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Re: Modern Matthew 11:5 [Re: grumley701] #8590049
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Originally Posted by grumley701
Honest question, is cancer the will of the Father? Is it so we can learn a lessen? Is it punishment? I just want to know...


That hook has lost its worm .

I have bird dogs who “love” and are very loyal to me . Tripp and Piper. I don’t have to physically discipline them anymore , a simple ‘no’ will suffice.

So , when I return from the store with their food , I don’t explain to them why I returned home with food. I’m not going to explain the internal combustion engine that got me there nor currency/goods exchange.

Welp. That’s how I feel about our Father. Pretend to know His will ? Especially an affliction that knows no boundaries in any sense?
Thank you , no. That’s too big to me, bud. That’d be like trying to explain the engine to German Shorthair Pointer . “ I love you, Father ! But I don’t get it …so, whatever.”.
I’m trying to be a good dog.


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I appreciate rebellion, I do.. respect but if I could , let men be men.. let us .. you've been taught a faults doctrine.. I'm just being honest and you certainly can correct me with past facts.. I hang with a guy who tells me women rule the world.. I guess I'm a bit of a murssian,,, show me.


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Araron I appreciate your reply but its a bit of a stretch for me to bring my relationships with my dog with my relationship with the creator of everything.. you've failed to answer my question... is cancer the will of the Father? (capital F)

I'm a upland guy who lives in pheasant country (maybe the best in the country) and to be honest I wouldn't trade any human relationship with the relationship I have with my dogs but at the end of the day they're just dogs..

I'm willing to give my salvation testament if you all interested to here..


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Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
Ohhhhhhhhh did you mean FALSE gods????



Yeah, spelling isn't my strong suit.. lol


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