Great round. Can't deny ballistics. A lot of the hate is just due to the huge wave of press it got when it came out.

Nothing magic about it, but the light recoil, great ballistics, unlimited ammo selection and availability and rifle versions make it hard to ignore.

Everyone has their favorite rounds and ones they dont like.

I guess great ballistic is realitive..... I can think of several 6.5 cartridges that leave it in the dust.

Can’t think of a reason to fill what a quarter bore does and .30. Am I missing something?

My take on the 6.5 Creed is......first and foremost.....it was developed to be a long range target round for the shooting games like PRS. Short case that allows for long, heavy for caliber high BC bullets, fired thru fast twist barrels at slower velocities are the magic mojo that results in long distance accuracy. Punching holes in paper and banging gongs out to half mile or more. It works fine for that. Where things went off the rails is when guys got the bad idea that a bullet that could punch holes in paper at half a mile could also kill deer at half a mile. I think even the military may have fallen for that one.......forgetting that even if you can snipe a guy at 1,000 yards, it does no good if the bullet just bounces off when it gets there.

Deer shot at distance were not going down.......or getting up and running off if they did. Works fine out to 200 to 300 yards, but then the wheels fall off. That led to jokes about the "needs more Creedmoor". The Swede, 260 Rem, 6.5 CM are all about the same and work fine under 200 yards, which is about the distance all run out of enough velocity and energy to get the hydrostatic shock needed to put animals down so they don't run off to die somewhere over the horizon. If guys remember that when hunting, rifle won't disappoint and won't have any trouble.

Sorry, bud. But that’s just a healthy mouthful of fuddery. Shot a mature mule deer doe at 350yds this fall. Heart/lung shot, full pass through and she piled up in 20yds. Shot another at 375yds with a 6ARC (anemic 243, another only good for steel round ) and she piled up right there. Speed helps transfer energy and shock light skinned animals but I don’t think it’s what some people make it out to be. Look at the 45-70. Fat and slow kills stuff. All ya gotta do is put holes in stuff and let their motor run outta oil.

So...the math ain't mathing with some of this .
The us military's main sniper cartridge for decades was .308 .
.308 has multiple upon multiple 1000m recorded kills.
They recently adopted 6.5 creed in like 2018
6.5 creed has more retained energy and velocity at 1000yd then .308 ..... So if .308 is doing the job and not bouncing off a guy ....why would the other cartridge that higher performing ....not do the same if not better ?

Also I don't. Understand some of these talks because people will say you can't do anything it doesn't work ....but when someone like ridgerunner posts multiple animals he's taken , at these longer distances, with no issues....it gets really quiet. Like I get it with me I'm just some goober playing in the reloading room not doing a lot of killing but when him and a few others post actual results...not a peep ? seems like regardless of proof either real worlds or math it's just don't matter a lot of times. Because seriously I could post 50 videos of people one shotting deer at 500yd and everyone will say something about not showing the bad shots but post a video of someone shooting a deer @100yd with a 30-06 and it runs 100yd which is like 90% of hunting shows it's perfectly fine .... I don't get it

But again I'm just a goober who shoots pigs occasionally so

Obviously the marketing worked. Out of the 6.5CM, the .260 , or the 6.5 Swede, which one has the most rifles offered and the most factory ammo offered?

Own 6.5 CM ,Zermatt action, Areo fluted barrel 26" sitting in MPA Matrix chassis, great shooting rifle, got mine dialed in 1,000 yds. I built this rifle for my PRS, shooting, plus love long range. I don't get involved in the name calling, of a cartridge. I build them because that's what I wanted. I have 223, 22 ARC, 6 ARC, 6 CM, 25x47 Lapua, building a 6 Dasher. Hunt with 308, 8mm STW, 458 socum. Never had a bullet bounce off any thing I ever shot at

I think the cartridge argument are almost irrelevant with the great bullets we have to select from these days. I view the cartridge as the delivery system, like a bow and arrow. I view the bullet as my broadhead. Are you hunting big tough game? Put on a big tough bullet like a monolithic, bonded or partition. Shootin little thin skinned critters get soft and explosive. The amount of powder and the tube that sends it are just that. Powder and a tube.

Is it really the Subaru of rifle cartridges ?There was a great thread here on that car .

Most of the “failure” of the .260 lies at the feet of Remington.

Another colossal screw up on their part.

They did it no favors in the marketing department, or what they offered it in.

They bungled it like they did the 6mm Remington.

Ouch, y’all. My 22 mag will do anything that 6.5 douchemore will do inside 100 yards. lol…

And I suspect many of the “problems” the 6.5 CM experiences on live game at distance, has less to do with the cartridge, and more to do with the shooter. Notably, an exaggerated sense of ability.

here is a joke that helps explain the hate

how do you know if a guy shot his buck with a 6.5 creedmore ?


don't worry he will tell you in great detail how it is the most Awesomest greatest hunting round ever invented and all other things are obsolete because of it.


the hate isn't on the cartridge it does exactly what it was designed to do hit far away targets and basically bring back 6.5 sweed in a case that only fit in modern guns so you didn't have to worry about people putting it in 1896 rifles

also accept long bullets better than the older 6.5 case offerings

it was really desinged to for match shooting , it just happens to also have enough energy to load it with a hunting bullet and make accurate shots on game.

when you want to stay supersonic to 1400 yards you need to play with long heavy for bore bullets so shorter fatter case and room to load a long bullet and still have it fit in the short action magazine.



the hate is on the guy with a manbun telling everyone everywhere about it till next deer season.

Funny right there, Boone. Don’t you dare tell someone they can’t buy success, if they suck.

bullet construction lead to early issues
the early 6.5cm rounds were target ammo with ballistic tips , but not really designed to expand

army doesn't often get to use expanding rounds so injured now dead in 5 minutes is good enough

Don't own one never will. But it's America if you want one buy it. Don't shoot like I used to. My 6mm rem, 222, and 270 handle everything i need to "hunt". Think i heard the big plus to 6.5 was short action and low recoil. Not many places here you can see 1000 yards let alone hunt there.

When I had my 260 built it was for long range target shooting. Less wind drift and droo than a 300 wim mag at 1000 yards and doing so with less recoil than a 308.

Now wolf dog missed the mark on its effective range. It will shoot and kill things as effective and as far as any 243 or 7mm-08. Its very effective past 2 or 300 yards but needs the right bullets. Im not going to shoot game with a match king or other match bullets. Im also going to know the velocity range the manufacturer recommends and know what distance I drop below that and not shoot any further.

Most match bullets are not made for expansion or soft tissue.

I will say the 120 and 123gr A Max in 6.5 did come apart and make a very effective coyot round for me. Seeing how it did on coyotes my cousin used it on several deer with great results. I believe they quit making it now though . I still have 500 or so to load and shoot.

YOu guys mentioned military going to 6.5 creedmore. Not what I been hearing. Everything I see is the 6.8.. But google lies....


The 6.8x51mm cartridge (designated .277 SIG Fury in the civilian market) is the new standard ammunition adopted by the U.S. Army for the Next Generation Squad Weapon (NGSW) program to replace the 5.56mm NATO. It is designed to offer significantly higher velocity, energy, and armor-piercing capabilities to combat modern, advanced