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M44's #8609440
05/08/26 03:05 PM
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Bdaniel Offline OP
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What yall think?

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Re: M44's [Re: Bdaniel] #8609445
05/08/26 03:18 PM
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Montana
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Excellent, a needed tool fir sure.


Let me sugar coat this
Re: M44's [Re: Bdaniel] #8609449
05/08/26 03:37 PM
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St. Louis Co, Mo
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A major lawsuit just sitting there waiting to be filed!


Every kid needs a Dog and a Curmudgeon.

Remember Bowe Bergdahl, the traitor.

Beware! Jill Pudlewski, Ron Oates and Keven Begesse are liars and thiefs!
Re: M44's [Re: Bdaniel] #8609461
05/08/26 04:17 PM
05/08/26 04:17 PM
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Ogorman told me that you had to have a permit to use the ones in the old days. I think it is the same with farmers buying ag sprays. Always have to jump through hoops and a lot of red tape.

Re: M44's [Re: Bdaniel] #8609463
05/08/26 04:24 PM
05/08/26 04:24 PM
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Magna, Utah
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Not a big deal out here if the sign rules is used, other wise, lots of problems with bird hunters especially quail and grouse

It's always the same thing , users think no one will be out there in that area when they set up for coyotes, until they ride back around on a check and see the place all tore up !!


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Re: M44's [Re: Bdaniel] #8609467
05/08/26 05:00 PM
05/08/26 05:00 PM
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Sandpoint Idaho/ Whitesboro TX
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We used lots of them around the sheep ranches. Paid attention to hunting seasons and pulled everything during.


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Re: M44's [Re: Bdaniel] #8609499
05/08/26 06:56 PM
05/08/26 06:56 PM
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New Mexico
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Used up to 500 of them at times. Followed all the use restrictions and signing requirements to the letter and other than a complaint or two from bird hunters about not being able to hunt a pasture with their dogs no problems (they knew they were there because all ranch and pasture gates had signs on them). According to records I kept on all the various equipment I used, M44s were by far the most humane and most selective ground tool available for coyote work. 99% canines and 95% coyotes.

Re: M44's [Re: Bdaniel] #8609671
05/09/26 12:32 AM
05/09/26 12:32 AM
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Won’t be long before someone screws up with one again.

Re: M44's [Re: Boone Liane] #8609754
05/09/26 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Boone Liane
Won’t be long before someone screws up with one again.

That's what I figure. There's always one idiot out there.

Re: M44's [Re: Bdaniel] #8609784
05/09/26 08:58 AM
05/09/26 08:58 AM
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Which idiot are you referring to....the trespasser I hope.

Re: M44's [Re: Bdaniel] #8609812
05/09/26 09:59 AM
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Who is a trespasser on public land

Re: M44's [Re: Bdaniel] #8609882
05/09/26 12:18 PM
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Northern Illinois
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Northern Illinois
IS it public land my understanding is private ranches? My mistake...

Re: M44's [Re: Bdaniel] #8609885
05/09/26 12:31 PM
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Oregon
One of the best tools for coyote control. And the most misunderstood tool out there " (such as cyanide bomb)". "Expolsive device" Ignorance is a dangerous thing, just look at Our politicians. Scott


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Re: M44's [Re: ScottPhillips] #8610005
05/09/26 06:13 PM
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S.W.Oregon
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Originally Posted by ScottPhillips
One of the best tools for coyote control. And the most misunderstood tool out there " (such as cyanide bomb)". "Expolsive device" Ignorance is a dangerous thing, just look at Our politicians. Scott

Moot point here in Oregon! Banned by the state several years ago.


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Re: M44's [Re: Bdaniel] #8610309
Yesterday at 10:09 AM
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Idaho
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This ruling is for public, not private land.

Re: M44's [Re: bearcat2] #8610323
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Originally Posted by bearcat2
This ruling is for public, not private land.

Yep , I believe montana certified trappers and gov. trappers are still
using them here.
They still fly and use dogs / call more than anything.


Let me sugar coat this
Re: M44's [Re: beartooth trapr] #8610326
Yesterday at 10:57 AM
Yesterday at 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by beartooth trapr
Originally Posted by bearcat2
This ruling is for public, not private land.

Yep , I believe montana certified trappers and gov. trappers are still
using them here.
They still fly and use dogs / call more than anything.


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Re: M44's [Re: Bdaniel] #8610327
Yesterday at 11:02 AM
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Northern Illinois
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Thanks bearcat for the info on the PUBLIC LAND...I misunderstood.

Re: M44's [Re: Bdaniel] #8610386
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a big no on public land... private land is a differant story can and should be used.

Re: M44's [Re: Bdaniel] #8610387
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It is a terrible idea. I first heard about these things back in the 1970s and thought of how in-discriminate they must be. And I still think that. Many non-target animals that we, as trappers, try to avoid were, and would be, killed un-intentionally. I know that myself, as well as pretty much every trapper I know go out of our way to be discriminant with our sets, even refusing sets that just might catch un-intended critters.
The M-44 is obviously a lethal "set" and can be "set off" by many different animals, including raptors, any canine, cats, humans, etc. And the idea that this would be ok on public land is idiocy.


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