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Re: Lets get rich. Responsibily.
[Re: OhioBoy]
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07/03/26 01:25 PM
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MN
Donnersurvivor
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I'll pass on the gold, if inflation causes the dollar to decrease in value I'll just charge more.
Chief of staff @ Mensa Tree division/vison officer
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Re: Lets get rich. Responsibily.
[Re: OhioBoy]
#8632632
07/03/26 02:17 PM
07/03/26 02:17 PM
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williamsburg ks
danny clifton
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House and debt is cheaper than rent from a citizen. Renting from your local government is cheaper. (property tax) Rental properties can make you money. If you have the right stuff to be a landlord. LOTS of headaches involved. A little metal is a hedge against the dollar collapsing. A possibility though not likely in the near future IMO. People are pretty accepting of the dollars value. Another depression is also possible. Debt for your home will hurt you bad if it happens.
If the economy crumbles it will be because of the national debt. If every country that holds treasury bonds dumped them, a little metal and a debt free home will be very valuable.
Debt as a tool is best when what is mortgaged won't be a hardship if something prevents you from paying the debt. If its not a need don't borrow to buy. Especially with credit cards unless you intend to pay it in full before any interest is charged. Credit card interest is worse than ridiculous. There are advantages to using them. The biggest advantage is very low theft risk from scammers. You may get scammed/hacked but your money wont be tied up while its being sorted out.
If you sell your home after figuring interest on the debt, maintenance, tax, insurance, you wont have gained much most times if any. Then you have to buy a new home in the same market you sold in. Much better than renting but not a money maker very often.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Lets get rich. Responsibily.
[Re: yotetrapper30]
#8632833
07/03/26 08:39 PM
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Joined: Jan 2012
Ohio, 48yo
OhioBoy
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Then you are exactly who i am trying to help. That first Felix guy is a fruit but watch his last 20 videos. Im hooked. Google how your portfolio should be invested diversity percentage wise. Im already heavy real estate and like what I'm reading about gold. Last round i sold a house and doubled down. Ive seen your posts. You can do the same. If inflation is going up our stuff is going to be worth more. The more expensive it is the more it should go up. But do your own research. Youll find money in the bank may go down if inflation going up so just keep asking google. Google is AI now. Type a paragraph in there about what you have invested here invented there how much what its invested in how much you oh on your house how much you make how much you save and ask it how you should diversify to take best advantage of of the current market and if that is where the institutional money is flowing or not. Follow the money. Start watching 50 day and 200 day averages and where they cross and what side you sant to be on. Anyway thats what im doing and a lot of people around me are asleep. Do your own research. I've rolled several 401Ks from previous jobs into IRAs at my brokerage and actively trade them. But I don't own any PMs or Crypto.
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Re: Lets get rich. Responsibily.
[Re: OhioBoy]
#8632860
07/03/26 09:37 PM
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Oakland, MS
yotetrapper30
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Then you are exactly who i am trying to help. I've rolled several 401Ks from previous jobs into IRAs at my brokerage and actively trade them. But I don't own any PMs or Crypto. Well thanks but I think I am perfectly content not owning PMs or crypto right now. I do have a small amount of silver coin on hand in case of an emergency. But I totally agree with your point about not leaving money sitting in savings accounts as the value will only go down due to inflation.
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Re: Lets get rich. Responsibily.
[Re: OhioBoy]
#8632862
07/03/26 09:40 PM
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MN
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MN
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That first Felix guy is a fruit but watch his last 20 videos.
Um, NO. I am not watching 20 videos. Who are you even talking too? It sounds like the ramblings of a madman.
I have nothing clever to put here.
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Re: Lets get rich. Responsibily.
[Re: OhioBoy]
#8632872
07/03/26 09:48 PM
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MN
Donnersurvivor
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Could you please Google some more screen shots to post, I find those most helpful
Chief of staff @ Mensa Tree division/vison officer
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Re: Lets get rich. Responsibily.
[Re: Donnersurvivor]
#8632873
07/03/26 09:49 PM
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MN
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Could you please Google some more screen shots to post, I find those most helpful LEGEND!
I have nothing clever to put here.
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Re: Lets get rich. Responsibily.
[Re: 160user]
#8632920
07/03/26 11:15 PM
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Ohio, 48yo
OhioBoy
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Ohio, 48yo
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I was just trying to help someone. Thanks for all the positive feedback. Dicks. Could you please Google some more screen shots to post, I find those most helpful LEGEND!
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Re: Lets get rich. Responsibily.
[Re: OhioBoy]
#8632978
Yesterday at 06:51 AM
Yesterday at 06:51 AM
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Ohio, 48yo
OhioBoy
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Ohio, 48yo
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Well it went crazy and they halted it and its stuck in my account this weekend like this…. So yeah Im hoping thats something… but i haven't figured it out yet… Not too much to figure out. It's doing poorly enough it's at serious risk of being delisted. The reverse-split is to the share price enough to prevent the delisting. Last ditch effort.
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Re: Lets get rich. Responsibily.
[Re: OhioBoy]
#8632979
Yesterday at 06:53 AM
Yesterday at 06:53 AM
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NC
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NC
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Unless you can predict when markets or inflation will rise and fall, it is all like a crystal ball. Look at all listings in your portfolio and determine your risk tolerance. Ask AI to give you a diversification recommendation based on those two things. Include your age also. You will get a specific allocation percentage for each holding/stock/fund. I have done quite well with this. Gold is a long term investment gamble like anything else. My concern is cashing it in if the SHTF. How will it be weighed and measured? How will I use it as currency? It's neat but if it was such a money maker, more individuals would be buying it. Real estate does not look appealing to me now unless you can find a cheap place then cheap labor and parts to fix it up and then flip it. Money can be made but the sweat and board equity better be measured carefully. And you have to pray there isn't another 08. Flipping real estate to try to upgrade your house looks near impossible now. Understanding your risk tolerance and diversifying appropriately is what will make you happy in the end. For the year right now, I am up 11% on my 401k. Much better on my brokerage. I still buy crypto but it is getting harder to fork out looking at the returns now. Crypto is very volatile. Either way, adjust to your risk tolerance and accept those gains and losses at that level. And don't forget. You could always buy Rolex watches!! 
How many lies will people believe before they realize their own idiocy?
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Re: Lets get rich. Responsibily.
[Re: OhioBoy]
#8632997
Yesterday at 07:44 AM
Yesterday at 07:44 AM
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Louisville, Nebraska
jabNE
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Louisville, Nebraska
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My take from my lifetime of investing. I have a handful of economists I follow and trust, just read and pay attention to get the overall picture and their blend of opinions and consensus.
For your investing, just focus on investing in a simple, diversified portfolio. Start when you are young, be disciplined, feed your portfolios steady and consistently, do not go chasing the latest greatest thing, (that is until that thing gets a little legs under it first, proves itself, because some of the hot new things disappear just as quickly) but stay your course on solid picks, and enjoy the power of compounded earnings over a very long time. Think marathon not sprint. There is no free lunch.
While that sucker is doing its thing in the background, you live sensibly and within your means. That way you always have the ability to keep feeding that investment portfolio in background. I’ll skip buying “toys” any day over turning some dollars into earning something meaningful for me over time. New trucks and side by sides will decline in value to zero over their lives. Good investments do the opposite. You have to think like that.
You may read about how you can do better investing in this or that, blah blah blah, just find a good solid mix and go. Don’t make it too complex or you will never get to feel the gains. Once you cross your first $250 thousand to $500 thousand, you will really “feel” it pick up steam on the relative $ size to % basis gains. Keep the course and keep feeding it. Add a few more picks if some picks drop out. Sell a few if you get a little heavy in one sector or the other. Keep it balanced and diversified so you are not too over exposed in any one sector. Track your gains to a good high mix yardstick like the S&P. It should track well to that index (or better).
And shoot your goals HIGH. Remember there are a lot of things at retirement that we don’t know. Taxes, medical costs, and funding your dreams and fun in retirement for a very long life after working. And maybe you have a family you want to leave a little something for too after all of that. You have to shoot high. The earning rate of the portfolio matters too. Takes a pretty big nest egg earning a paltry, typical conservative blend like 3% to cover all of that in retirement. A smaller pool earning at higher rate say maybe 8%-12% will accomplish the same thing. Track your gains. And always watch the earning rate. It matters.
I’m no expert. Will never claim to be. But I know what works and am happy I did what I did.
Jim
Last edited by jabNE; Yesterday at 07:49 AM.
Money cannot buy you happiness, but it can buy you a trapping license and that's pretty close.
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Re: Lets get rich. Responsibily.
[Re: OhioBoy]
#8633260
Yesterday at 04:06 PM
Yesterday at 04:06 PM
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Joined: May 2011
Oakland, MS
yotetrapper30
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Oakland, MS
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Well it went crazy and they halted it and its stuck in my account this weekend like this…. So yeah Im hoping thats something… but i haven't figured it out yet… Not too much to figure out. It's doing poorly enough it's at serious risk of being delisted. The reverse-split is to the share price enough to prevent the delisting. Last ditch effort. Well, if you're long shares of it...... you also should have much fewer shares than you had. For example, if you had 100 shares of it on Friday you will have 6 on Monday. Reverse splits are usually never a good thing. There are only two reasons to do it.... to avoid delisting which is the case with ABTC or to try to make the shares "appear" more valuable than they are by hanging a higher price tag on them. In either event, its the sign of a company that is in trouble.
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Re: Lets get rich. Responsibily.
[Re: jabNE]
#8633276
Yesterday at 04:44 PM
Yesterday at 04:44 PM
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Joined: Mar 2007
McGrath, AK
white17

"General (Mr.Sunshine) Washington"
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McGrath, AK
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My take from my lifetime of investing. I have a handful of economists I follow and trust, just read and pay attention to get the overall picture and their blend of opinions and consensus.
For your investing, just focus on investing in a simple, diversified portfolio. Start when you are young, be disciplined, feed your portfolios steady and consistently, do not go chasing the latest greatest thing, (that is until that thing gets a little legs under it first, proves itself, because some of the hot new things disappear just as quickly) but stay your course on solid picks, and enjoy the power of compounded earnings over a very long time. Think marathon not sprint. There is no free lunch.
While that sucker is doing its thing in the background, you live sensibly and within your means. That way you always have the ability to keep feeding that investment portfolio in background. I’ll skip buying “toys” any day over turning some dollars into earning something meaningful for me over time. New trucks and side by sides will decline in value to zero over their lives. Good investments do the opposite. You have to think like that.
You may read about how you can do better investing in this or that, blah blah blah, just find a good solid mix and go. Don’t make it too complex or you will never get to feel the gains. Once you cross your first $250 thousand to $500 thousand, you will really “feel” it pick up steam on the relative $ size to % basis gains. Keep the course and keep feeding it. Add a few more picks if some picks drop out. Sell a few if you get a little heavy in one sector or the other. Keep it balanced and diversified so you are not too over exposed in any one sector. Track your gains to a good high mix yardstick like the S&P. It should track well to that index (or better).
And shoot your goals HIGH. Remember there are a lot of things at retirement that we don’t know. Taxes, medical costs, and funding your dreams and fun in retirement for a very long life after working. And maybe you have a family you want to leave a little something for too after all of that. You have to shoot high. The earning rate of the portfolio matters too. Takes a pretty big nest egg earning a paltry, typical conservative blend like 3% to cover all of that in retirement. A smaller pool earning at higher rate say maybe 8%-12% will accomplish the same thing. Track your gains. And always watch the earning rate. It matters.
I’m no expert. Will never claim to be. But I know what works and am happy I did what I did.
Jim Absolutely right !
Mean As Nails
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Re: Lets get rich. Responsibily.
[Re: yotetrapper30]
#8633278
Yesterday at 04:46 PM
Yesterday at 04:46 PM
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Joined: Mar 2007
McGrath, AK
white17

"General (Mr.Sunshine) Washington"
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McGrath, AK
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Not too much to figure out. It's doing poorly enough it's at serious risk of being delisted. The reverse-split is to the share price enough to prevent the delisting. Last ditch effort. X2 Reverse split is something to get away from ASAP
Mean As Nails
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