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So did I , but they could care less about the workers.
Who are you talking about, not me.

Why work the same job, and get the same pay, while another does nothing and still get the same pay?
Maybe you worry about other people too much. I just got things done and worked whenever I wanted to.

Why are companies going to Mexico, or other countries ?
I setup the plants in Saltillo Mexico. Flew through Monterey. Theres three plants there now. 1.5 time after 40 double time on Sundays and holidays. 13 paid holidays.

Why did you have to pay someone to get into an automotive job?
What are you talking about? I built millions of automotive parts. I probably made the radiator or HVAC in your truck.

Unions were a good thing until the mafia got involved.
I never had any back room deal anywhere nor did anyone I know.

Unions never did me a favor, just made me a pawn like the rest of the people in it.
If you made OT that isn't true. You made that OT b/c you were in a union. I can't speak ill of them like that. Raised my kids.

Made my job harder because I had to carry those that wouldn't do their job.
Then go work somewhere else.

Most were out on workers comp, and as soon as they came back, got hurt again.
Our plant was plagued with FMLA. Thats federal, not union. People missing work for fake health has nothing to do with a union.

Yes unions were good for the workers until the mafia got control of them.
I think we covered this already.

Instead of carrying your own weight, you had to carry 3-4 people on your back.
I worked in an actual LEAN plant. We turned a failing big 3 auotomotive company into a well ran worldwide German automotive supplier.
Had you used you LEAN production board correctly all you had to do was write tasks on it, assign people name to it, get things done, and move people out of your way.
People to stubborn to change got left behind.

Why have a union when you can talk to your employer , and get raises on your own merit, and not have to carry the dead beats!
I worked in a 1.2M sq ft facility with 1200 people. My employer was an old lady in Gernany that inherited one of the largest automotive suppliers in the world when her husband died.

Theres good mexicans. They knew their boy was out of line.

OB, what are you talking about regarding OT?? It's been a federal law forever to have to pay OT. YES unions accomplished that eons ago. But their time is long gone......

Well, it sounds as though you had your fun before finding a better one so all's well that ends well lol.

Not sure what you are talking about. I worked in a plant for 20 years six and seven days a week 10-12 hours +. I wasn't allowed to work without a manager on site. The managers did not make overtime. I have no idea why you think they did.

Because the managers are salaried and waiving their right to OT was part of the contract they signed when accepting the job. All hourly workers MUST be paid overtime for any hours worked over 40.

Mathmatically you are correct though. They pay OT workers less an hour bc they are going to make OT. 4 hours on sunday is a 20% raise.

All hourly workers in a union shop are union.

I was SBU. Salary Bargaining Unit.

Managers dont sign a contract to start work.

….the ol Toyota way

…. But many don’t realize it’s not a Japanese idea

…it was W Edwards Demming

… just wanted to clear that up lol

You are smarter than most people give you credit for. You pass that class and get that belt? Ours was tough.

Here are the laws. https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/overtime

Yes I know all hourly workers in a union shop are union UNLESS it's a right to work state.

I turned down the most money I'd ever been offered when I found it was a union job. No thanks.

Contract, acceptance of offer paperwork, call it what you want.

….yall just go down rabbit holes so quick in here

… it’s wild lol

I don't need you preaching at me Yote. I worked in a Union shop my senority date was aug 19 2002. My boy was born june 13 2003. I quit in about 2020. I'm not going to have you tell me how it was.

… yes …. A fight !

… I got a green belt I think ?

… it was some Asian dude that didn’t know what was he was doing teaching the class

…. So I don’t consider it an accomplishment at all lol

Not preaching, boy. Just kinda calling ya democrat-lite. LOL

… round two

…..you ready ?

… you ready ?

… touch gloves … keep it clean… and let’s come out swinging!

Love ya. When we brought him home from the hospital it was our first night staying in that house. On the way to the hospital the Mrs was b-ing about not having a refrigerator to keep breast milk in. I told her I'd take care of it. She had no idea how. She was from Philadelphia. She went to HS with those JackA** kids that mad that movie. She'd say well they didn't really go to school. Their senior prank was putting cows on the roof of the school. They had to use a crane to take them down, they wouldn't go down the stairs they went up. They came to school and cow patties were in the hallway. Anyway we pulled into Sears where a guy I went to HS withs mom worked. She picked out a fridge and I had them deliver it and told them the door was unlocked and when we came back from the hospital there it sat.

I worked all night the night before he was born. I fell asleep in the waiting room. They took us back and I laid on the floor against the wall on the other side of the room and slept. The nurse kicked me and said it was time to get up. I went over and caught him coming out. The Dr was like are you good and I was like I think I will be fine and I was down there on the business end with him and he was impressed. When she woke up I was eating biscuits and gravy from the cafe.

You know... making that awful union OT.