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Do Jews or Muslims believe in Satan #8651804
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Just wondering out loud


"Those who hammer their guns into plowshares will plow for those who do not."
Re: Do Jews or Muslims believe in Satan [Re: trapper les] #8651817
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Yes, especially Muslims, they often refer to America as the great Satan.

Re: Do Jews or Muslims believe in Satan [Re: trapper les] #8651820
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Feareth yee no evil….civil and well thought out responses are welcome…..you’d think I was trolling…


"Those who hammer their guns into plowshares will plow for those who do not."
Re: Do Jews or Muslims believe in Satan [Re: trapper les] #8651822
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For religious Jews, there is a figure called the Satan who serves as a prosecutor or "adversary" as a member of God's divine council, as featured in the Book of Job. Their concept of him is a bit different from the Christians.

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… Muslims do … Jews don’t

… what do I win ?

Re: Do Jews or Muslims believe in Satan [Re: trapper les] #8651827
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I believe that they both refer to Satan as the accuser or advisory(sp)
Islamic religion uses Satan's personal name and and his position of power name, which I can't spell either one
The Jewish religion claims God is in control of Satan and is sorta like God's prosecutor. They sometimes call him the venom of God. I can't spell the Jewish word for Satan either

That's a start grin

Re: Do Jews or Muslims believe in Satan [Re: ColdspringKidd] #8651828
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Originally Posted by ColdspringKidd
… Muslims do … Jews don’t

… what do I win ?

I’ll come up with a participation trophy


"Those who hammer their guns into plowshares will plow for those who do not."
Re: Do Jews or Muslims believe in Satan [Re: ColdspringKidd] #8651829
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Originally Posted by ColdspringKidd
… Muslims do … Jews don’t

… what do I win ?


The "I don't know what I am talking about" award, lol.

Satan is all throughout Jewish mythology.... in the Torah and especially in the Talmud.


Regret is the one thing I just won't do ~~ Beth Dutton
Re: Do Jews or Muslims believe in Satan [Re: trapper les] #8651832
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Muslims believe in Jinn, which is where we got Genies from. Their Satan is a Jinn called Iblees and also Shaitaan, Jinn are similar to demons, but a little different, in their belief system. Dogs barking and Donkeys braying, for no apparent reason, during the day, mean there is a Jinn present. When that happens, they are supposed to cover themselves with a prayer blanket and hide in a closet. Muslims believe black dogs are usually Jinn and they are commanded to kill them on sight.

The scarier thing is that in the Qur'an, angels are supposed to be repelled by dogs. Almost every other culture believes demons are repelled by dogs, including European, Asian, South American, African and even Aboriginal ones. That seems to suggest that Muslim angels are actually fallen angels/demons. Islam is an evil religion, so that does make sense.

Keith

Re: Do Jews or Muslims believe in Satan [Re: yotetrapper30] #8651835
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Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
Originally Posted by ColdspringKidd
… Muslims do … Jews don’t

… what do I win ?


The "I don't know what I am talking about" award, lol.

Satan is all throughout Jewish mythology.... in the Torah and especially in the Talmud.


… ok

Re: Do Jews or Muslims believe in Satan [Re: trapper les] #8651836
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The Pharisees in the time of Jesus believed in demonic forces and a devil. This evolved when the Talmud was written after the end of the Second Temple period.

Re: Do Jews or Muslims believe in Satan [Re: trapper les] #8651837
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.. not satan as a fallen angel

.. but yall know best I’m sure

Re: Do Jews or Muslims believe in Satan [Re: trapper les] #8651843
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… dang … ol Beth Dutton ran off

Re: Do Jews or Muslims believe in Satan [Re: trapper les] #8651844
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Have you read Job?


Regret is the one thing I just won't do ~~ Beth Dutton
Re: Do Jews or Muslims believe in Satan [Re: trapper les] #8651846
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…. Yes … Yahweh allowed his enforcer to persecute Job

… it’s not the satan Christians believe in though

…But I don’t care ….I’m agnostic


Re: Do Jews or Muslims believe in Satan [Re: trapper les] #8651847
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So am I. Why do you feel there's a difference?


Regret is the one thing I just won't do ~~ Beth Dutton
Re: Do Jews or Muslims believe in Satan [Re: trapper les] #8651848
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I asked you a question, boy. Don't MAKE me resurrect Mark June to settle this......


Regret is the one thing I just won't do ~~ Beth Dutton
Re: Do Jews or Muslims believe in Satan [Re: yotetrapper30] #8651854
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Originally Posted by yotetrapper30
So am I. Why do you feel there's a difference?


…. Muslims and Jews are very different from Christians in there beliefs.. so it confuses me why Christians would support either is all

…. Neither one believes Jesus was the son of god as prophesied in Isiah or what have you

…. I believe more in this these days lol

….

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Re: Do Jews or Muslims believe in Satan [Re: trapper les] #8651858
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Which has nothing to do with my question, lol.

I know Jews don't believe in Jesus, that's a given.

Why do you think their belief of Satan differs much for the Christian belief of it?

Stay on topic...... lol.


Regret is the one thing I just won't do ~~ Beth Dutton
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… it should have been obvious… but I’ll mansplain it for you

… the Jews believe satan is still in heaven … not ruling over h**

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