Just wondering out loud

Yes, especially Muslims, they often refer to America as the great Satan.

Feareth yee no evil….civil and well thought out responses are welcome…..you’d think I was trolling…

For religious Jews, there is a figure called the Satan who serves as a prosecutor or "adversary" as a member of God's divine council, as featured in the Book of Job. Their concept of him is a bit different from the Christians.

… Muslims do … Jews don’t

… what do I win ?

I believe that they both refer to Satan as the accuser or advisory(sp)
Islamic religion uses Satan's personal name and and his position of power name, which I can't spell either one
The Jewish religion claims God is in control of Satan and is sorta like God's prosecutor. They sometimes call him the venom of God. I can't spell the Jewish word for Satan either

That's a start

I’ll come up with a participation trophy

The "I don't know what I am talking about" award, lol.

Satan is all throughout Jewish mythology.... in the Torah and especially in the Talmud.

Muslims believe in Jinn, which is where we got Genies from. Their Satan is a Jinn called Iblees and also Shaitaan, Jinn are similar to demons, but a little different, in their belief system. Dogs barking and Donkeys braying, for no apparent reason, during the day, mean there is a Jinn present. When that happens, they are supposed to cover themselves with a prayer blanket and hide in a closet. Muslims believe black dogs are usually Jinn and they are commanded to kill them on sight.

The scarier thing is that in the Qur'an, angels are supposed to be repelled by dogs. Almost every other culture believes demons are repelled by dogs, including European, Asian, South American, African and even Aboriginal ones. That seems to suggest that Muslim angels are actually fallen angels/demons. Islam is an evil religion, so that does make sense.

Keith

… ok

The Pharisees in the time of Jesus believed in demonic forces and a devil. This evolved when the Talmud was written after the end of the Second Temple period.

.. not satan as a fallen angel

.. but yall know best I’m sure

… dang … ol Beth Dutton ran off

Have you read Job?

…. Yes … Yahweh allowed his enforcer to persecute Job

… it’s not the satan Christians believe in though

…But I don’t care ….I’m agnostic

So am I. Why do you feel there's a difference?

I asked you a question, boy. Don't MAKE me resurrect Mark June to settle this......

…. Muslims and Jews are very different from Christians in there beliefs.. so it confuses me why Christians would support either is all

…. Neither one believes Jesus was the son of god as prophesied in Isiah or what have you

…. I believe more in this these days lol

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Which has nothing to do with my question, lol.

I know Jews don't believe in Jesus, that's a given.

Why do you think their belief of Satan differs much for the Christian belief of it?

Stay on topic...... lol.

… it should have been obvious… but I’ll mansplain it for you

… the Jews believe satan is still in heaven … not ruling over h**

FYI, (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) is empty at the present time. Nor is Satan in heaven or ever going to rule over (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman). (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) is a prepared place for Satan and his fallen angels aka demons when their free rein on earth is over.

…. Sounds like a good plan bro

My power went out.

Mmmm........ maybe. I think it would be closer to say that they believe Satan resides in all of us rather than in Heaven. Which is actually an idea I could kind of get behind.

…. Sounds good if that’s what you’re about… watch out for harvey Weinstein in the afterlife though

Some Christians might call that Original Sin.

What is this crap? You try to start a debate, I try to debate you and you quail like this??? You suck tonight lol.

…. What do you mean by quail ?

.. thought you just sided up with Judaism ?

… you’re drunker than me aren’t you

Quail (verb): to shrink back or flinch in fear; to lose courage or become timid, especially when facing something intimidating.

… oh crap …. Here’s the Beth Dutton larp again

(sigh). That's getting old. I thought you wanted to debate, lol. Sorry my ditzy female self misunderstood.

If you wish to discuss Beth.....here is the post for that........ ---------> https://trapperman.com/forum/ubbthr...47/gonew/1/yellowstone-fans-jamie#UNREAD

Although.....quail-y men might say Beth WAS Satan. lmao

This post is about religion.

….i just don’t understand what you’re trying to debate

.. it’s been established that satan is interpreted differently in the Levantine religions

… so what would you like to debate about next?

…. I’ll be back … but don’t go too hard on me for the next 40 minutes

… ran out of nicotine… and have to ride to the truck stop at the freeway… only thing open this time of night

….if I run across Saul of tarsus along the way …I’ll interrogate him … and let yall know what’s really going on

Well..... yes Satan is interpreted differently. So, now that you have admitted your first comment, that Jews do not believe in Satan, was wrong, I guess this debate is finished.

I'll be going to bed within a half an hour, and really don't have a debate in mind..... so unless you do I guess nothing. Unless you wanna talk about Trump suspending his own tariffs until after the midterms, but you don't seem to be much interested in those kinda conversations.

LOL. I'll be in bed. Please don't kill anyone.

… Trumps owned by adleson

…. And no … Jews don’t believe in satan in the Christian interpretation… which was what the original post was about

… nighty night Beth lol

dang boy you got you hands full in here.

Muslims believe in Jesus, known by his Arabic name Isa. They revere him as a major prophet and the Messiah, but they do not view him as the Son of God or divine. A core part of Islamic faith is honoring his miraculous virgin birth and his powerful ministry.

They recognize that he existed at the same time just wasn't the chosen one as we believe him to be..

The Ascension (\(Mi'raj\)): According to Islamic tradition, Muhammad was miraculously transported from Mecca to Jerusalem during the Night Journey (\(Isra' \text{ and } Mi'raj\)). From this specific rock outcropping, he ascended into the heavens to speak with God and meet earlier prophets like Abraham, Moses, and Jesus

The Shared Holy Site: The rock itself is known to Jews as the Foundation Stone. It sits atop the Temple Mount (known to Muslims as Haram al-Sharif or the Noble Sanctuary). This is the exact historical location where the biblical Solomon's Temple and the subsequent Second Jewish Temple stood before being destroyed by the Romans in 70 CE.

Theres a temple on that rock.

… I don’t know… thought I laid things out fairly well

…who do you think won the debate ol hand ? lol

WHAT debate? There was none. You quailed when we were just getting started lol.

… BS … you’re just so simple you missed the nuance

… and you know it lol

lol Im campin at the county fair.


.... I'll call it a draw.

no bullying yote now...

… I turned my phone sideways so I could see signatures

… no one on this post

… who did it Yote? lol

lol

Yes,about 40 years ago

Hmm.. God gave the devil dominion over the earth i vaguly rember reading. so I guess that would make this (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) for the Jews?

In the book of Charlie Daniels, the devil went down to Georgia. This cannot be debated or denied.

Truth

Savell will this as proof that the devil is a Yankeei, since he went down to Georgia.

Keith

Of course Jews recognize Jesus, Jesus was born, raised and died a jew, they just don't believe he was the Messiah.

The jews we've known claim they don't believe in Satan as the Christians do.

They are both very satanic

You people spend way too much time on google reading bullshite.