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Re: Belisle 330 price!!!!
[Re: Swamp Wolf]
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Realistic better answer... end the fiasco in Iran, $5+ diesel is killing us. Go and be honest with the American people about the country and economy, let them know we must cut spending and work towards a balanced budget before we let the debt accelerate further. No sacred cows, we must cut across the board.
Start trading with Russia again, forget Ukraine, we need cheap oil and resources to help float the economy while govt cuts spending and Russia has them.
"Conservatives" had control of all 3 branches of govt and did nothing but accelerate spending, start new wars and adopt more central planning. Maybe the best realistic plan is to try and fox the republican party that MAGA has near ruined
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Re: Belisle 330 price!!!!
[Re: Donnersurvivor]
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Realistic better answer... end the fiasco in Iran, $5+ diesel is killing us. Go and be honest with the American people about the country and economy, let them know we must cut spending and work towards a balanced budget before we let the debt accelerate further. No sacred cows, we must cut across the board. your first sentence goes to prove that you have zero tolerance for pain, even if in the long run you'd be better off. you're the kind of guy who would rather pop aspirin 24/7 than see a dentist for the root canal that you need. Your second sentence isn't realistic. name the 60 Senators that are on-board with your plan and would vote for it. Start trading with Russia again, forget Ukraine, we need cheap oil and resources to help float the economy while govt cuts spending and Russia has them. again, pain intolerance on your part. and again...name the Senators and Representatives who will vote to cut spending. there are a FEW, but not nearly enough to accomplish your desires. "Conservatives" had control of all 3 branches of govt and did nothing but accelerate spending, start new wars and adopt more central planning. Maybe the best realistic plan is to try and fox the republican party that MAGA has near ruined simply untrue...there is a bare majority of REPUBLICANS in the House and in the Senate (FAR less than the 60 votes needed); EVEN IF they were all Conservatives. Most are NOT. I'll give you an "E" for Effort, but your logic doesn't hold up to even a cursory examination.
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Re: Belisle 330 price!!!!
[Re: white marlin]
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it's a negotiating tactic.
not sure why this is such a difficult concept to grasp... If that's the case, I sure hope he's better at negotiating tariffs than he is at "negotiating" with Iran.... but it's not looking real good on either front.......
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Re: Belisle 330 price!!!!
[Re: white marlin]
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Yesterday at 10:17 PM
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Realistic better answer... end the fiasco in Iran, $5+ diesel is killing us. Go and be honest with the American people about the country and economy, let them know we must cut spending and work towards a balanced budget before we let the debt accelerate further. No sacred cows, we must cut across the board. your first sentence goes to prove that you have zero tolerance for pain, even if in the long run you'd be better off. I'll give you an "E" for Effort, but your logic doesn't hold up to even a cursory examination. Thanks for the lesson professor, ima go pop a bottle of Advil now and get 9 hours of sleep before heading to my job as a pillow tester.
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Re: Belisle 330 price!!!!
[Re: white marlin]
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what do you think are the REALISTIC chances that your Rx ("Start by raising the interest rate... now. Then drastically slash federal spending...... all social programs.... including subsidies for farms and businesses. Reform the income tax system.") will be implemented? by EITHER side? EVER!
no, our only real chance is to grow the economy OVER THE LONG HAUL.
if you have a REALISTIC better answer, let's see it! You, too, Donnersurvivor and Dirt.
Her answer is very realistic, and would be effective, but it won't happen without a major collapse first. Because there aren't enough politicians willing to take the heat from their constituents when their programs are cut. There is no plus side for politicians in that answer. By the time the long term gain appeared, most of those voting for it would be out of office.
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Re: Belisle 330 price!!!!
[Re: Swamp Wolf]
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I know a thing or two about inflation. mad_mike and I built a remote cabin during covid, when a 1/2" sheet of CDX plywood in Juneau, Alaska's Home Depot cost $119.00 a sheet! And a 2"x12"x16' pressure treated was over $100.00 each, (and we needed plenty of both). Prior to that, as a contractor, I was paying less than $20.00 for the plywood and about $22.00 for the lumber. And I have forced from my memory what the 3/4" sanded plywood for the floor was. The increase in Beslile 330s is not even on the same planet as those increases, and those material price increases happened almost overnight.
Just doing what I want now.
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Re: Belisle 330 price!!!!
[Re: Swamp Wolf]
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Once O Crazy Cortex becomes president she will fix all these problems, give Iran a couple hundred billion dollars to repair their nuclear missile plants and allow Canada to put 110 percent tariff back on our goods while we lower theirs back to 0 and all will be well once again the land, might even get plywood back to 12 bucks a sheet.
Not my circus, not my clowns.
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Re: Belisle 330 price!!!!
[Re: Jtrapper]
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I know a thing or two about inflation. mad_mike and I built a remote cabin during covid, when a 1/2" sheet of CDX plywood in Juneau, Alaska's Home Depot cost $119.00 a sheet! And a 2"x12"x16' pressure treated was over $100.00 each, (and we needed plenty of both). Prior to that, as a contractor, I was paying less than $20.00 for the plywood and about $22.00 for the lumber. And I have forced from my memory what the 3/4" sanded plywood for the floor was. The increase in Beslile 330s is not even on the same planet as those increases, and those material price increases happened almost overnight. I sure don’t miss those days! I seen the odd contractor trying to use buffalo board…….lol Once O Crazy Cortex becomes president she will fix all these problems, give Iran a couple hundred billion dollars to repair their nuclear missile plants and allow Canada to put 110 percent tariff back on our goods while we lower theirs back to 0 and all will be well once again the land, might even get plywood back to 12 bucks a sheet. You better hope there’s someone to vote for in the next couple years or it’s gonna get real ugly. This’ll look like a picnic……lol. In the mean time, you got China set up 60 miles from Key West.
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Re: Belisle 330 price!!!!
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what do you think are the REALISTIC chances that your Rx ("Start by raising the interest rate... now. Then drastically slash federal spending...... all social programs.... including subsidies for farms and businesses. Reform the income tax system.") will be implemented? by EITHER side? EVER!
no, our only real chance is to grow the economy OVER THE LONG HAUL.
if you have a REALISTIC better answer, let's see it! You, too, Donnersurvivor and Dirt.
Her answer is very realistic, and would be effective, but it won't happen without a major collapse first. Because there aren't enough politicians willing to take the heat from their constituents when their programs are cut. There is no plus side for politicians in that answer. By the time the long term gain appeared, most of those voting for it would be out of office. which makes her answer very UNREALISTIC.
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Re: Belisle 330 price!!!!
[Re: Swamp Wolf]
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There was zero pressure or discussion from the top down about balancing the budget or reducing spending. By 2028 its likely one president will be responsible for adding over 1/3rd of the entire national debt. President "short term pain" driving inflation, growing govt and increasing the debt.
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Re: Belisle 330 price!!!!
[Re: Swamp Wolf]
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Obama doubled the debt in 8 years, took over 200 years to get 10 trillion in debt, he did 10 trillion in 8.
Biden did the inflation and tried to increase gov size, 87,000 new IRS agents ring a bell? Trump's cut the gov. workforce more than any president in my lifetime.
And increasing the debt seems to be what is going to happen no matter WHO is in office, congress likes to spend other people's money, don't see that changing.
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Re: Belisle 330 price!!!!
[Re: Jtrapper]
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Obama doubled the debt in 8 years, took over 200 years to get 10 trillion in debt, he did 10 trillion in 8.
Biden did the inflation and tried to increase gov size, 87,000 new IRS agents ring a bell? Trump's cut the gov. workforce more than any president in my lifetime.
And increasing the debt seems to be what is going to happen no matter WHO is in office, congress likes to spend other people's money, don't see that changing. Well "conservatives" are the majority in congress also. Trump has already outspent Obama and has 2 years. I don't think to many people on here voted for Obama assuming he was going to rein in govt and be fiscally conservative, that was never the expectation
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Re: Belisle 330 price!!!!
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If u agree with tariffs or not,,,,, its all about “on shoring” manufacturing
The difference today versus the past is AI and automation
The interest rates will never be meaningful high again in the future
They’ll need easy money to pay for all the ever increasing social programs
Doesn’t matter which party,,,,,or which country
If a government can just make money out of thin air,,,,,, nothing will stop the spending train
Fix the money,,,,,, fix the world
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Re: Belisle 330 price!!!!
[Re: Donnersurvivor]
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Obama doubled the debt in 8 years, took over 200 years to get 10 trillion in debt, he did 10 trillion in 8.
Biden did the inflation and tried to increase gov size, 87,000 new IRS agents ring a bell? Trump's cut the gov. workforce more than any president in my lifetime.
And increasing the debt seems to be what is going to happen no matter WHO is in office, congress likes to spend other people's money, don't see that changing. Well "conservatives" are the majority in congress also. Trump has already outspent Obama and has 2 years. I don't think to many people on here voted for Obama assuming he was going to rein in govt and be fiscally conservative, that was never the expectation real "Conservatives" are about 15 percent of Republicans. How about you vote in more "Conservatives"?
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Re: Belisle 330 price!!!!
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Donnersurvivor, you know this....mathematically whoever is in office next will be RESPONSIBLE for having CREATED the highest national debt. That sucker is snowballing without an end in sight!
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