I was a member of NATO the 80's It's purpose died in 1991.

I dont think anyone pays anything to nato directly they just agree to pay a certain amount in defense spending in their own countrys ( under the NATO umbrella).
Canada and other countries have sent assetts and soldiers to die in wars that basically the USA has dragged them into.And now the USA with the biggest armed forces in the world is threatening other Nato countries like denmark.
Retarded,the Chinks must be gleefully wringing their hands.

I dont think we should have anything to do with NATO. They want our tec, money, and protection and dont like us.

"North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO), 1949
The North Atlantic Treaty Organization was created in 1949 by the United States, Canada, and several Western European nations to provide collective security against the Soviet Union."

Right from the U.S. State Department website.

Anybody seen the Soviet Union around lately?

PF, why would a guy from Wisconsin thinking China is part of NATO have anything to do with the Canadian education system?

Except you are the only country that has called on them to go fight for you and die for you and they did. I think “they’re starting to not like you” is more appropriate. I think they’re all tired of hearing how they never would do anything if needed when in fact you’re the only country that has ever needed and called on them and they were there for you.

^^^ that happened,,ONCE.Because of 9/11

So now you admit it-backpeddler.

The peace dividend in the 90's was a direct benefit to the military build up in the 80's. The U.S. stopped growing the defense budget during the 90's as did most of Europe. The U.S. started growing the defense budget after 2001 not for NATO defense, but for middle east interference. Europeons have no reason to increase defense spending. Most of the old Warsaw pact is in NATO adding their troops to NATO and subtracting them from the former Soviet Union.

You're correct, ONCE, the one and only time Article 5 was invoked. So what you are saying is that NATO countries helped the USA 100% of the times that NATO has helped anybody. Yet, you wonder why countries are tiring of listening your admin rattle on about they'd never do anything to help you. LOL

Thats a thorn in Putins side and why he is belligerant and threatening NATO countries not just non aligned(ukraine)
Ukraine wants to join both the EU and Nato and as a sovereign country has the right to self determination.
Putin thinks he can dictate what another sovereign country can decide for itself?What a retard.Now its costing him millions of lives of his own countrymen because a sovereign country will fight to the death for their country.

Well,I guess statistacally you are correct.

Sorry I must have missed the post you were referring to and made an assumption you made the leap. Sounds like you were referring to a post someone else made. I apologize. I also made an additional assumption considering how it looks like the Canadian government has gone so far left that your education system has to be at be doing as much if not a lot more indoctrination than ours is.

But I openly admit thats 100% assumption on my part with no base or info to back it up. Just fits what I see as a global trend. May be odd but I have no problem admitting when im making assumption or hypothesis based on my opinions and when I have limited to no experience or direct info. And I know very little about Canadian other than its got a lot of wilderness, small population clustered in a small area of the huge country and limited roads and infrastructure in the remote areas. Have produced some great snipers and have a large amount of rugged outdoors man that would srug off conditions that would kill me.

I have liked every Canadian I have meet so far though that has not been a lot. I did get off to a rocky start with one of them French Canadians that was a forman on one of the smoke stacks I built. But that was his first job as a Forman and he was trying to make a showing and messing up royalty. Even the laborers started calling him the weather man. Only a weather man can or him could mess up so much and stay employed. After a month or two even he came around and we became friends. I believe the up tightens was just him being stressed and nervous to start.

Yes Upstate, statistically I am. Because I teach Mathematics I will at some point in time today will explore the number 33000. That is the number of people us nasty, nasty, unfair people safely landed and housed for you that day even though us NATO nations would never help you guys out.

Boco,,I think that imbecile Putin is loosing popularity amongst his own countrymen and military.He best watch he dont end up like the Romanovs.

I dont forget that,,and am greatfull.You guys even put us up in your own homes.

Well, those people not working and not looking should not be included in U/E numbers. U/E should reflect those who want work and cannot find it.

I wholeheartedly agree that cutting hand outs and requiring work and time limits and all of that should be enacted but you KNOW it will never happen. If it DID then yes, the country could support an increase in sneaker and undie companies.



As for J's comment....

While it sucks for the person that lost their job, I still find it preferrable that Ching be employed in China making those undies than for corporations to import Ching HERE to make them when they can't find reliable willing American workers.....

As to the socialism comment, you may be correct because these days most people find that big business makes an easier villain than the mirror.

I quit taking math when the teacher said Pie R square,,when everyone knows,,pies are round.

Most of it is indirect funding like you stated. That indirect funding simply means individual nations contributions to their own military. There is also direct funding where countries pay directly into the operating budget. the USA contributes 14.9% which is the same as Germany's contribution.

You are 100% correct on your statement regarding China, they must be laughing in their political circles.

I knew you were due to say something that made sense