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Re: I don't hunt horns [Re: Trap Setter] #8675000
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I don't ALWAYS hunt only big deer compared to others.. I HUNT the biggest buck on the land I have available. Yes most years it's a 130-140 inch 10 pt. But If I have a true giant on my places THAT'S the one Buck I hunt. I kill him great I WAS BLESSED. If not I kill a doe for meat and put my tag in my sock drawer. Already got a box full of 100 inch racks. No need to kill another one.

Re: I don't hunt horns [Re: jbyrd63] #8675008
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Originally Posted by jbyrd63
I don't ALWAYS hunt only big deer compared to others.. I HUNT the biggest buck on the land I have available. Yes most years it's a 130-140 inch 10 pt. But If I have a true giant on my places THAT'S the one Buck I hunt. I kill him great I WAS BLESSED. If not I kill a doe for meat and put my tag in my sock drawer. Already got a box full of 100 inch racks. No need to kill another one.

Id think with all your culling knowledge u would have much bigger bucks than that. grin
Thats just a nice 2 1/2 year old here.

Re: I don't hunt horns [Re: tucker13] #8675018
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Originally Posted by tucker13
Well first you should learn the difference between horns and antlers. deer dont have horns.


Doesn't change the truth of the title one bit. Lol
I don't hunt horns.


Life sure is tough when you don't learn from the mistakes of others.
Re: I don't hunt horns [Re: Crappiekiller] #8675019
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Originally Posted by Crappiekiller
A 2.5 yr old 6 point gets removed from our hunting grounds. I have seen a set of 6 pt horns from a 6.5 yr old buck that touched 130”. We finally got it killed by one of my friends kids during youth season several yrs back.


My experience is that buck will never add one more than maybe 8 pts and stickers. I am not the all knowing but have some experience in genetics. Everyone has their opinion and you do you. In your part of the world that could be a wall hanger. If your happy with it by all means that is all that matters.



Its my understanding that that buck got half its genetics from the doe?

Re: I don't hunt horns [Re: Trap Setter] #8675036
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If you don't kill it your neighbor will. Might as well get out there and beat the poachers.

Re: I don't hunt horns [Re: Bdaniel] #8675049
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Originally Posted by Bdaniel
Originally Posted by Crappiekiller
A 2.5 yr old 6 point gets removed from our hunting grounds. I have seen a set of 6 pt horns from a 6.5 yr old buck that touched 130”. We finally got it killed by one of my friends kids during youth season several yrs back.


My experience is that buck will never add one more than maybe 8 pts and stickers. I am not the all knowing but have some experience in genetics. Everyone has their opinion and you do you. In your part of the world that could be a wall hanger. If your happy with it by all means that is all that matters.



Its my understanding that that buck got half its genetics from the doe?

Thats why i never shoot the antlered does

Re: I don't hunt horns [Re: Yes sir] #8675123
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Originally Posted by Yes sir
Originally Posted by jbyrd63
I don't ALWAYS hunt only big deer compared to others.. I HUNT the biggest buck on the land I have available. Yes most years it's a 130-140 inch 10 pt. But If I have a true giant on my places THAT'S the one Buck I hunt. I kill him great I WAS BLESSED. If not I kill a doe for meat and put my tag in my sock drawer. Already got a box full of 100 inch racks. No need to kill another one.

Id think with all your culling knowledge u would have much bigger bucks than that. grin
Thats just a nice 2 1/2 year old here.

Glad you are so smart that you KNOW a deers age by a photo. YOU AND I are both guessing deers age. BUt that doesn't change the fact hes a jacked up SIX point. Watched too many deer progress to 4.5 and he won't ever be a giant. Let him live to 7 . YES his body will grow . But antlers nope won't happen. Honestly how many deer have you had AGED. Not just teeth wear because diet and terrain can wear faster. Not everyone has 3-400 acres to hunt. One I killed last year was on MY 40 acres. I stayed out until conditions where right and killed him in 15 minutes after getting into my blind . As for bigger bucks. MOST hunters would give their left dangle to kill a MEASURED 140 in white tail. I'm sure you have let 160 in walk every day you hunt. Wind isn't the only thing that blows in kansas......................

Re: I don't hunt horns [Re: jbyrd63] #8675199
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Originally Posted by jbyrd63
He needs to die. Won't ever be a more than what he is. IF you want a big one for the wall let someone else , kids, buddy kill him. He needs to die.


laugh laugh laugh

That’s hilarious….



Re: I don't hunt horns [Re: Donnersurvivor] #8675200
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Originally Posted by Donnersurvivor
I don't think cull bucks are a real thing, it's just the excuse trophy hunters use to kill small bucks



Correct.



Re: I don't hunt horns [Re: Swamp Wolf] #8675202
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Originally Posted by Swamp Wolf
Originally Posted by jbyrd63
He needs to die. Won't ever be a more than what he is. IF you want a big one for the wall let someone else , kids, buddy kill him. He needs to die.

And you know this how?

That buck is a healthy midwestern 2.5 year old.....3.5 year old max.

He has reached only about 40% to 50% of his potential. Points don't matter. He could, and likely will, in good midwestern habitat, increase dramatically in the next couple years.

Come on jbyrd....I thought your whitetail knowledge was at a higher level.



Exactly.

3.5 year old is the absolute maximum.

And yes Jbyrd, I even ran it by a B&C official scorer and deer biologist. While extremely difficult to tell an exact age of a deer on the hoof. As there are many variables, that deer isn’t older than 3.5 and has room to grow.



Re: I don't hunt horns [Re: Trap Setter] #8675209
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Just a six point… should have been “culled” a few years earlier. Haha



Re: I don't hunt horns [Re: Trap Setter] #8675212
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I shoot what I don't want to look at anymore...

Re: I don't hunt horns [Re: jbyrd63] #8675215
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Originally Posted by jbyrd63

Glad you are so smart that you KNOW a deers age by a photo. YOU AND I are both guessing deers age. BUt that doesn't change the fact hes a jacked up SIX point. Watched too many deer progress to 4.5 and he won't ever be a giant. Let him live to 7 . YES his body will grow . But antlers nope won't happen. Honestly how many deer have you had AGED. Not just teeth wear because diet and terrain can wear faster. Not everyone has 3-400 acres to hunt. One I killed last year was on MY 40 acres. I stayed out until conditions where right and killed him in 15 minutes after getting into my blind . As for bigger bucks. MOST hunters would give their left dangle to kill a MEASURED 140 in white tail. I'm sure you have let 160 in walk every day you hunt. Wind isn't the only thing that blows in kansas......................

If you only wait for only 7.5 year old bucks, you must only shoot bucks in decline and 1 every 6 years or so. lol,


And yes. I have had deer aged. I’m sure google told you that you can’t rely solely on tooth wear and that is true. But, if you send a tooth to the lab, they will be able to get you a really good idea. Haha



Re: I don't hunt horns [Re: Trap Setter] #8675285
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Umm Delaware I think if you can get past your jealousy and read my first coupling post I said my first guess was 2.5 but after seeing his last pic I guessed 3.5. Thanks for making my point. Spent 2 days about 20 years ago working a check station with a wildlife biologist. His ONLY job was aging deer. It’s an educated guess at best but about 4-5 things he looked at if a deer wasn’t obviously a yearling. One deer was 15 in wide 8 pt that feild dressed 89 lbs every sign physical EXCEPT ANTLERS pointed to 1.5year old But after examining teeth. Hooves glands he estimated its age at 3.5. I asked what caused it?? Obvious it had some kind of dwarf problem. First explanation was severe inbreeding.

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Hey Google is a helpful tool Glad you reminded me
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Re: I don't hunt horns [Re: Trap Setter] #8675304
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This is a buck about an hour from my place in a community where the deer are pretty tame amongst the cottagers.

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This is what small 4 pointers can turn into with age. Jbyrd your inexperience with whitetail deer is through the roof.


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Re: I don't hunt horns [Re: Swamp Wolf] #8675308
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Originally Posted by Swamp Wolf
Originally Posted by jbyrd63
He needs to die. Won't ever be a more than what he is. IF you want a big one for the wall let someone else , kids, buddy kill him. He needs to die.

And you know this how?

That buck is a healthy midwestern 2.5 year old.....3.5 year old max.

He has reached only about 40% to 50% of his potential. Points don't matter. He could, and likely will, in good midwestern habitat, increase dramatically in the next couple years.

Come on jbyrd....I thought your whitetail knowledge was at a higher level.



Ok swamp you stated points don’t matter? This one will someday be a giant if he lives?
I thought your knowledge of genetics was better than that !
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This is for all you guys that say that is bogus IS A CULL BUCK

Re: I don't hunt horns [Re: Trap Setter] #8675314
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That deer is more than likely an injured deer. Thus the wonkiness of the antlers.

Will that deer have the potential to grow bigger: probably not. But he could possibly still carry the genes to produce giants.

Would I take that buck... Heck yeah, but I'm all about the wonky-racked bucks.


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Re: I don't hunt horns [Re: DelawareRob] #8675320
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Originally Posted by DelawareRob
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Just a six point… should have been “culled” a few years earlier. Haha

Exactly! That’s still six point that passed on crappy genes. Scoring wise he sucks. Want meat shoot a doe. You guys just keep posting pics proving my point
Honestly. What do you think that deer will score?
He’s in velvet so not official. 20wide. 19 in main beams That’s 78 4 short points plus circumstances. Might be100. That’s being generous

Re: I don't hunt horns [Re: Jurassic Park] #8675321
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Originally Posted by Jurassic Park
This is a buck about an hour from my place in a community where the deer are pretty tame amongst the cottagers.

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This is what small 4 pointers can turn into with age. Jbyrd your inexperience with whitetail deer is through the roof.

Yes
He’s a main frame8 That produced kickers as he got old Read my post about the deer in question. I said he’d gain more mass and probably get some kickers. But the original deer doesn’t live in town where no one can hunt him PLUS predators are fewer
You’re lack of reading comprehension is off the charts!!!

Plus your jealousy is unmeasurable..
keep at it someday you’ll find something you’re good at besides being a hateful soul
I’ll pray it happens soon

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