Re: Hog butchering, curing and smoking bacon&hams
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Now to really make you hungry! I also had two deer hams that I brined, and smoked! This was a 35lb Bambi that committed suicide when it ran into a chainlink fence. One ham I boned out the other I left whole This is the whole ham with a nice finishing glaze This is the boned out one that I sliced into lunch meat!It is wiith out doubt the best deer ham in the world!
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Re: Hog butchering, curing and smoking bacon&hams
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That looks great.What kind of wood did use for the smoke? Hickory, sugar maple, and apple.
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Re: Hog butchering, curing and smoking bacon&hams
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Holy cow, WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN TIMBER??????
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Re: Hog butchering, curing and smoking bacon&hams
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CAn you discuss the brine in more detail? Did you inject the same brind as you soaked it in? or two different recipes? What was your brine made out of if you dont mind giving out the trade secrets. I use the same brine on the hams&bacon, it is very easy to make, and taste awesome For twenty pounds of meat use 3 cups of brown sugar 3 tablespoons Pickling Spice, 8 tablespoons Prague Powder #1, 4 cloves Garlic, 3 tablespoons of Chicago steak rub (You can substitute for any steak rub), 3 cups of sea salt, 2 gallons of water. Bring to a boil for ten minutes then chill to 38 degrees. Besure to inject a lot along the bone, and about every 2 square inches of meat on both sides. Then fully submerge in non metal containers and chil for 10 days. Then you place hams in a container and soak in ice water for 2 hours, replace the ice water and soak for two more hors, this removes the access salt from the cure. Then they are ready for the smoker. edit to add (3 cups of sea salt)
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Re: Hog butchering, curing and smoking bacon&hams
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Holy cow, WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN TIMBER??????
Long time no hear from ya!!!!!! I worked 63 out of 66 days strait this summer, but as the season winds down I'll be around!
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Re: Hog butchering, curing and smoking bacon&hams
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So Seaharvester, out of a 350lb pig, how many pounds do you expect to put away as hams, sausage, ribs, etc? Just curious what the yield is. Looks great and you're making me hungry even though I just ate!
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Re: Hog butchering, curing and smoking bacon&hams
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So Seaharvester, out of a 350lb pig, how many pounds do you expect to put away as hams, sausage, ribs, etc? Just curious what the yield is. Looks great and you're making me hungry even though I just ate!
Clark I generally scold the hogs and scrape the hair off, this was the first time I skinned one so the yeild on lard and pork rinds were much less then usual. With smoking, the hams went from about 30lbs. a piece to about twenty pounds. I had about 50 lbs. of bacon, it rendered 38 lbs. when it was done. 40 lbs. of brats and sausage after smoking about 30 lbs. I have 8 very nice loin roast at about 50lbs. fresh meat. 20 lbs of ribs Id say roughly 225 lbs of product in total. It is a ton of work, and takes a lot of time, but the taste is superb, and it is a lot of fun. I'd say it is about the same as buying at the grocery store when it comes to cost, but I know what my hog ate.
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Re: Hog butchering, curing and smoking bacon&hams
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Saw the health stuff on foodnetwork. Think I keep this schoolboy figure not eating healthy?lol Oh Yeah, forgot fried pies, chicken, quail. fish, eggs, and the cracklin cornbread.lol Corn bread made from cracklins is as close to heaven with out dying a man can get!
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Re: Hog butchering, curing and smoking bacon&hams
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What...no scrapple ? Looks great Seaharvester !
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Re: Hog butchering, curing and smoking bacon&hams
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Growing up we used salt boxes instead of soaking. Haven't tried that. Probably end results the same. At least you know what youre feeding the family. Good Job! Salt boxes are a southern thang, due to lack of ice in the old days, it is not as good as brine, but it does do a great job.
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Re: Hog butchering, curing and smoking bacon&hams
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What...no scrapple ? Looks great Seaharvester ! I usually make scrapple, but gave the head to the kid that works for me, he made the hog head cheese.
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Re: Hog butchering, curing and smoking bacon&hams
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I use the same brine on the hams&bacon, it is very easy to make, and taste awesome For twenty pounds of meat use 3 cups of brown sugar 3 tablespoons Pickling Spice, 8 tablespoons Prague Powder #1, 4 cloves Garlic, 3 tablespoons of Chicago steak rub (You can substitute for any steak rub), 2 gallons of water. Bring to a boil for ten minutes then chill to 38 degrees. Besure to inject a lot along the bone, and about every 2 square inches of meat on both sides. Then fully submerge in non metal containers and chil for 10 days. Then you place hams in a container and soak in ice water for 2 hours, replace the ice water and soak for two more hors, this removes the access salt from the cure. Then they are ready for the smoker. Did you use this same brine for the deer hams? Those pictures of the deer hams made my mouth water! What did you use for the finishing glaze? In your recipe is the only salt you used in the steak rub? How long and at what temp did you smoke them. I have been wanting to smoke venison hams for a couple of years now and this has really spurred me on.
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Re: Hog butchering, curing and smoking bacon&hams
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I use the same brine on the hams&bacon, it is very easy to make, and taste awesome For twenty pounds of meat use 3 cups of brown sugar 3 tablespoons Pickling Spice, 8 tablespoons Prague Powder #1, 4 cloves Garlic, 3 tablespoons of Chicago steak rub (You can substitute for any steak rub), 2 gallons of water. Bring to a boil for ten minutes then chill to 38 degrees. Besure to inject a lot along the bone, and about every 2 square inches of meat on both sides. Then fully submerge in non metal containers and chil for 10 days. Then you place hams in a container and soak in ice water for 2 hours, replace the ice water and soak for two more hors, this removes the access salt from the cure. Then they are ready for the smoker. Did you use this same brine for the deer hams? Those pictures of the deer hams made my mouth water! What did you use for the finishing glaze? In your recipe is the only salt you used in the steak rub? How long and at what temp did you smoke them. I have been wanting to smoke venison hams for a couple of years now and this has really spurred me on. I'm sorry I left out 3 cups of sea salt. I will go back an edit it in. The glaze is off the hook good. I take honey, yellow mustard, orange juice and just a little brown sugar to change the color as it doesn't look good, heat until everything blends. Yes the same brine. I try to keep the smoker near 225, deer hams take aboubt 4 to 5 hours depending on size. I start to apply the glaze when the internal temp reaches 140, after about 3 coats every 1/2 hour the internal temp should be 155, they are done. take out and let cool. Smoking deer hams is really a lost art, These hams are just a pink, and ham tasting as pork, but no fat and when you have a good friend over they will be amazed.
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Re: Hog butchering, curing and smoking bacon&hams
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Very impressive, when we butcher we usually do about 6 hogs and 2 beef when the whole crew is around . we skin our hogs also ,alot quicker and easier. unfortunately we hire someone to do the smoking and sausage making for us and it turns out fine . Alot more pride in those fine looking hams and bacons of yours tho. i agree on the lard , makes some awesome pastry crusts too. anyone care to share that cracklin/cornbread recipe ? sounds awesome.
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Re: Hog butchering, curing and smoking bacon&hams
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i didn't think hogs ate scallops.
looks real nice. i sent this link to a guy at work who is doing a few deer loins and a few ham roasts for me this weekend. same thing, a 40lbs doe commited suicide, but it tried to eat soy beans in front of a muzzy. 4-blade.
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Re: Hog butchering, curing and smoking bacon&hams
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i didn't think hogs ate scallops.
looks real nice. i sent this link to a guy at work who is doing a few deer loins and a few ham roasts for me this weekend. same thing, a 40lbs doe commited suicide, but it tried to eat soy beans in front of a muzzy. 4-blade. LOL, I did feed the hog about a bushel of bunker, and many tuna heads, he loved it.
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Re: Hog butchering, curing and smoking bacon&hams
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I have a 300# yorkshire getting ready to hang..Im just waiting on a few cooler days..Got a new meat grinder and Im slobbering for some fresh sausage,LOL
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Re: Hog butchering, curing and smoking bacon&hams
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Very impressive, when we butcher we usually do about 6 hogs and 2 beef when the whole crew is around . we skin our hogs also ,alot quicker and easier. unfortunately we hire someone to do the smoking and sausage making for us and it turns out fine . Alot more pride in those fine looking hams and bacons of yours tho. i agree on the lard , makes some awesome pastry crusts too. anyone care to share that cracklin/cornbread recipe ? sounds awesome. Cornbread 1 Cup sifted all-purpose flour; 1/4 Cup sugar; 4 tsp baking powder; 1 Cup yellow cornmeal; 2 eggs; 1 Cup milk; ¾ cup of lard ¼ cup of crunched cracklins. Combine ingredients. Do not over mix. Bake at 425 F for 20-25 min. in greased cast iron skillet.
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Re: Hog butchering, curing and smoking bacon&hams
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MAN O MAN!!!! Those pictures made me drool!!!!
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Re: Hog butchering, curing and smoking bacon&hams
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This is a really great post. What else did you feed your hog besides tuna heads?
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