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Silver lining in opioid overdose #6242492
05/17/18 10:52 PM
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Besides the obvious benefits , organ donation is on the rise

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shot...opioid-epidemic


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Re: Silver lining in opioid overdose [Re: AntiGov] #6242497
05/17/18 10:58 PM
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Some people waste their lives with drugs but at least it can benefit others

Re: Silver lining in opioid overdose [Re: AntiGov] #6242498
05/17/18 10:59 PM
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A bit morbid Gov, but productive none the less.


I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
Re: Silver lining in opioid overdose [Re: AntiGov] #6242507
05/17/18 11:09 PM
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Who would want any part of a junkys body in them. To each their own I guess.

Re: Silver lining in opioid overdose [Re: AntiGov] #6242535
05/17/18 11:35 PM
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Seen drugs and alcohol destroy a lot of lives but the dopers are the toughest to work with they lie so much they can't tell the truth when it would benefit them. Always working some angle to keep the drugs a coming 24/7/365 the only thing that matters!


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

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Re: Silver lining in opioid overdose [Re: AntiGov] #6242559
05/18/18 12:10 AM
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Huge problem in the USA today that gets no media coverage at all....its just ignored for the most part.

Meanwhile the US military has lots of assets in the #1 opium producing country in the world and never destroys the poppy crops.

A few years after we invaded afgan it moved to the top spot worldwide for opium export. #1.

Similar thing happened after we invaded s/e asia in the 60's.....go figure.

After nam and afgan heroin became very popular in the USA...in between those wars it was cocaine that was popular.

Must be a coincidence.....


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Re: Silver lining in opioid overdose [Re: AntiGov] #6242576
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Re: Silver lining in opioid overdose [Re: wetdog] #6242626
05/18/18 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted By: wetdog
Who would want any part of a junkys body in them. To each their own I guess.



I was thinking the same. You'd think that their critical organs would be garbage.

Re: Silver lining in opioid overdose [Re: AntiGov] #6242664
05/18/18 08:14 AM
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tweed & wet,

Ask someone that's about to die, desperation (IMO) would come to mind. Reminds me of those that have been trapped cave diving - Would give anything a shot.


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Re: Silver lining in opioid overdose [Re: AntiGov] #6242674
05/18/18 08:30 AM
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2ndjoborfun. God gave me one body.
And when it's worn out,it's time to take that long nap and wait for his return.
I truly believe that when you're called home,you should not question it.
I also believe, if go against his calling, by means of medical means.
It could be a slap in gods face.
I believe in the old ways.
Just what my heart tells me

Re: Silver lining in opioid overdose [Re: AntiGov] #6242676
05/18/18 08:32 AM
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Wet, God Love Ya - Hope & pray I can have the same thought train.


“In God is our trust!” And the star-span-gled ban-ner in tri-umph shall wave O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave!
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Re: Silver lining in opioid overdose [Re: AntiGov] #6242701
05/18/18 09:13 AM
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frequently the overdose does very little to damage the liver , kidneys and many other tissues , as I understand it the person basically suffocates because their brain tells the body not to breath. get them on ice quick and send new blood to the organs and they come back very well.

also the donors who OD are frequently young late teens and twenties is common for some it may have only been a short time they were using. so it is like a car that pulls off the car lot and gets rear ended , it has a nearly new engine and transmission even if the back is a mess.


America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
Re: Silver lining in opioid overdose [Re: AntiGov] #6242730
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Hepatitis, aids and a dozen other gifts you can get from a IV user I'd have to be pretty desperate, you can just see the MSM, "people allowed to die to harvest their organs!"


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

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Re: Silver lining in opioid overdose [Re: AntiGov] #6242731
05/18/18 10:36 AM
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Unfortunately the way organ donation works many organs go to waste. There is very specific criteria which must be met in order to be able to use the main ones. Most are only suitable for tissues or eyes.

Re: Silver lining in opioid overdose [Re: AntiGov] #6242751
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I think anyone on the organ donation list is Very Desperate.

when I was in High school AIDS was a death sentence. 30 years later people have lived 30 years with aids , it is really sad but people do not worry about AIDS like the should.


with no liver your don't live 30 years , you might very well find someone who would take aids and 30 years longer. although they would certainly be running a full battery of tests to avoid that on the blood the second they could draw it.


America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
Re: Silver lining in opioid overdose [Re: Marty] #6242797
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Originally Posted By: Marty
Huge problem in the USA today that gets no media coverage at all....its just ignored for the most part.

Meanwhile the US military has lots of assets in the #1 opium producing country in the world and never destroys the poppy crops.

A few years after we invaded afgan it moved to the top spot worldwide for opium export. #1.

Similar thing happened after we invaded s/e asia in the 60's.....go figure.

After nam and afgan heroin became very popular in the USA...in between those wars it was cocaine that was popular.

Must be a coincidence.....


Synthetics are the new go to and are already replacing "real" opium. Afghanistan was only one part of this mess, big pharma and doctors are another aspect and now synthetic drugs from China are the next stage.

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