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Re: Stock Market up 1300 points [Re: Steven 49er] #8261750
11/14/24 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Steven 49er
Why is the FED necessary?



People don't like business cycles.


Who is John Galt?
Re: Stock Market up 1300 points [Re: Dirt] #8261753
11/14/24 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Dirt
Originally Posted by Steven 49er
Why is the FED necessary?



People don't like business cycles.


We don't like weather cycles either, so I guess we need to work on climate change, lol.

Re: Stock Market up 1300 points [Re: snowy] #8261818
11/14/24 09:49 AM
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That first article you posted didn't seem to believe in business cycles? The second article was well worth the read.


Who is John Galt?
Re: Stock Market up 1300 points [Re: snowy] #8261819
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Bill ackmen’s take,,,,


Re: Stock Market up 1300 points [Re: snowy] #8262618
11/15/24 02:23 PM
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How now down Dow ?


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Re: Stock Market up 1300 points [Re: snowy] #8262740
11/15/24 05:13 PM
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White 17))))))))!!!! laugh!!!!

Re: Stock Market up 1300 points [Re: snowy] #8262854
11/15/24 07:31 PM
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I see at around 3:55 it was down 305.

Re: Stock Market up 1300 points [Re: snowy] #8262899
11/15/24 08:24 PM
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40 a barrel ? My goodness, coon prices will skyrocket!,.at least that was the consensus not to many years ago, or maybe it has been a while. grin

Anyway, just having a bit of fun with oil!

Re: Stock Market up 1300 points [Re: snowy] #8270788
11/25/24 10:00 AM
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DJIA starting out pretty good with less than an hour into it, up 480 this morning. A short week of trading this week.


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Re: Stock Market up 1300 points [Re: snowy] #8270793
11/25/24 10:07 AM
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Chip stocks not looking great this morning though....


Just give me one thing, that I can hold on to. To believe in this livin' is just a hard way to go.
Re: Stock Market up 1300 points [Re: snowy] #8270798
11/25/24 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by snowy
DJIA starting out pretty good with less than an hour into it, up 480 this morning. A short week of trading this week.



Historical there is a nice long run up before a crash. I'm no economist but the numbers don't match the performance. I'm sure there will be something to kick the can down the road just a little farther.

In December I'm moving another 8 % over to cash and or defense stocks, utilities, and other more stable dividend paying stocks or etfs.

Re: Stock Market up 1300 points [Re: snowy] #8270804
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^ I been playing the game since late 70's and never have sold one share of anything. I'm a buyer and hold player. Nothing new to me just go with the flow ride out the storms and enjoyed the gains through the years.

What goes up must come down. I'm not a market timer like what you are doing.


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Re: Stock Market up 1300 points [Re: snowy] #8270813
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Originally Posted by snowy
^ I been playing the game since late 70's and never have sold one share of anything. I'm a buyer and hold player. Nothing new to me just go with the flow ride out the storms and enjoyed the gains through the years.

What goes up must come down. I'm not a market timer like what you are doing.



I'm a dollar cost average guy mostly index etf guy on 90%. But I hold cash some cash to buy more on the dips and have no problem re balancing some when conditions dictate. sure in a18 months to a few years all losses during the dips the last few decades have been recovered and blown past and I average good returns. But I'm willing to forgo some short term gains on small % and move it to not take such large losses then buy more when the majority are jumping off a bridge. Typically buying good stable companies and hold will out preform the get rich quick guys. And is why I only play with 10 % or so. Well that and a lot of mine is stuck in a limited option 401 and I can't move it into much. Basically s& p index fund 4 larg caps one mid cap and 3 small cap funds along with several target date funds and 3 bond funds. are my options there.

But the extra 10% I put in there after tax I roll into my Roth once every 6 months and in my Roth I have lots of options and it let's me get a large increase in my Roth each year over the 7 k contribution limit. so the Roth I play with and 401 gets dollar cost average. I want to roll an old 401 into my Roth as well but am waiting to do that in a low income year to avoid paying more on taxes in the higher tax bracket I'm in now and that would add to it.

Moving it to an IRA would give me more options until I decide to start chunking it into my roth and I have been thinking about that as well.

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