Deer Proofing Snare Sets
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Might be an odd question but in deer, elk and moose country do you do anything different to keep big game out of snare loop when trapping yotes etc.? It seems like every game trail, cattle trail, game all use these trails. Any tricks of the trade to have a snare get tripped if big game is present?
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Re: Deer Proofing Snare Sets
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Wire a jump stick to a tree so a coyote ducks under and big game jump over it. Big stick like a small tree.
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Re: Deer Proofing Snare Sets
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I have found jump sticks work very well to accidentally snare a small deer, *as they try to duck under the stick) so I avoid using them. I set 2-4 snares on good trails, so that if a few get knocked down by deer etc I have others ready
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Re: Deer Proofing Snare Sets
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Don't wire a stick over a trail you will catch way more deer than coyotes , every doe teaches her fawns how to go through a fence and same with tight brush cover so all your doing will be catching does and fawns .
You're friend along the snare line . Allan
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Re: Deer Proofing Snare Sets
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Fallen trees or brush with trails I'm very choosy on location. Fallen trees where tracks go under is a great location as long as deer don't sniff the snare but still have to go around fallen tree. I always use the stick under the snare.
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Re: Deer Proofing Snare Sets
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I use about a 11" loop for them, if I'm sure I'm setting on a deer trail I lower the bottom of the loop to 10-11" off the trail as opposed to 13-15" up which I prefer. It seems to help. Yep good trick of the trade.
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Re: Deer Proofing Snare Sets
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Bait pile of the main trail, set the secondarys. What nate said. Set large bait stations away from dear activity at the edge of cover or in a clearing. Dear will generally avoid the bait stations become of bird and predator activity. Set established trails.
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Re: Deer Proofing Snare Sets
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Deer avoid bait stations. You must have different deer then I do. I have lots of deer visit my bait stations.
As for loop height. We can only use a 12" loop, and it can't be more then 12" off a hard surface. And I get 100s of knock downs by deer. I've killed a few deer In CRs and the loop was only 12" and 12" off the ground. Those deer were walking down that trail with their heads down. The weird thing was that there was no tear up. Those deer just laid down and died. Must be a stress thing. The BAD never came into play.
I had one deer get Its head and one leg through a 12" loop and was still alive and I released It. I never figured that one out.
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Re: Deer Proofing Snare Sets
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Deer avoid bait stations. You must have different deer then I do. I have lots of deer visit my bait stations.
As for loop height. We can only use a 12" loop, and it can't be more then 12" off a hard surface. And I get 100s of knock downs by deer. I've killed a few deer In CRs and the loop was only 12" and 12" off the ground. Those deer were walking down that trail with their heads down. The weird thing was that there was no tear up. Those deer just laid down and died. Must be a stress thing. The BAD never came into play.
I had one deer get Its head and one leg through a 12" loop and was still alive and I released It. I never figured that one out. I don't think it's the bait stations they avoid. I beleave it's all the Ravens and predator activity. There's other factors involved. White tails are more apt to visit baits than Mule deer. At least that's what I've observed and putting the bait out a way from the cover a bit and away from the deer travel area. The predators will use the cover to establish trails. Every scenario is different. It is something that takes time to figure out. The coyotes use the deer travel ways so if there is cover between the deer trails and the bait the coyotes use it to create there own secondary trails to the bait. Sometimes it takes me 3 or more seasons to figure out the best spots for the bait. I like to change it up and sometimes having two bait drop spots can increase your catch. I suppose the bait used could posably be a factor also. I mostly use coyote coon carcasses, what ever I catch. It's the bird that draw in the coyotes, but when the tems drop the coyotes will eat most any bait.
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Re: Deer Proofing Snare Sets
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Coyotes are hard to figure when It comes to bait piles. I have dumped deer parts in places where coyotes are living, and they won't even go near that bait pile. I once found a deer that the coyotes were feeding on, but it didn't lend itself to where i could hang any CRs. So, I hooked up the ATV and dragged It into a grassy area. It was never touched again. I have had dead deer where coyotes have walked right over the carcass but never fed on that deer. I caught coyotes in the area but nowhere near that carcass. The best luck I have had with bait piles Is placing them about 20 yards or so from cover. Then let the coyotes show me where to hang my CRs. I think the coyotes just feel more at ease when they are feeding out in the open.
But If you shot a deer and wait till the next day to recover It 9 times out of10 that deer will be ate up.
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Re: Deer Proofing Snare Sets
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If you dont want deer buggering up your coyote snares set some deer snares (JK)
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Coyotes are hard to figure when It comes to bait piles. I have dumped deer parts in places where coyotes are living, and they won't even go near that bait pile. I once found a deer that the coyotes were feeding on, but it didn't lend itself to where i could hang any CRs. So, I hooked up the ATV and dragged It into a grassy area. It was never touched again. I have had dead deer where coyotes have walked right over the carcass but never fed on that deer. I caught coyotes in the area but nowhere near that carcass. The best luck I have had with bait piles Is placing them about 20 yards or so from cover. Then let the coyotes show me where to hang my CRs. I think the coyotes just feel more at ease when they are feeding out in the open.
But If you shot a deer and wait till the next day to recover It 9 times out of10 that deer will be ate up. Yes set bait of of the edge of cover.
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