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Subtitles to farmer's #8479690
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Can someone tell me where to look up, what was paid out to individuals thru government substitute's?

Re: Subtitles to farmer's [Re: nate] #8479691
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Punch in your zip code and it will tell you how much each person got for that area if they have land in multiple zip codes you'll have to punch in each code to get a accurate number on them. If you have any questions pm me.iam assuming you meant subsidies.

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Re: Subtitles to farmer's [Re: nate] #8479922
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Thank you!!

Re: Subtitles to farmer's [Re: nate] #8479927
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Most will be surprised!

Re: Subtitles to farmer's [Re: nate] #8480040
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Most would be surprised at the havoc government can cause when intervening in the free market. In order that the public has available food at an affordable price, the government has intervened in one way or other since the days of Joseph of Egypt.
Most farmers I know would much rather just have a free market !

Re: Subtitles to farmer's [Re: Foxpaw] #8480050
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Originally Posted by Foxpaw
Most would be surprised at the havoc government can cause when intervening in the free market. In order that the public has available food at an affordable price, the government has intervened in one way or other since the days of Joseph of Egypt.
Most farmers I know would much rather just have a free market !


Exactly... I would much rather no subsidies and let people pay the actual production costs of their food at the grocery store. But as much as people moan and groan about the subsidies, I think that would pale in comparison to the absolute tantrums people would have when they found out how much it really costs to produce the food they buy.

As livestock farmers there are not many "subsidies" available to us, but we do benefit second hand from subsidies on grain that help us to control feed cost when buying grain products. There are often however grants to livestock operations that can be taken advantage of. They often center around doing projects to protect the environment usually being very project specific.

Edit to say that one glaring exception was during covid. The government was tripping over themselves to hand out money to livestock operations during that time.

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Re: Subtitles to farmer's [Re: nate] #8480072
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It would be one thing if it were just about good quality food. But cheap ethanol and corn syrup are not that.

Re: Subtitles to farmer's [Re: trapdog1] #8480073
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Originally Posted by trapdog1
It would be one thing if it were just about good quality food. But cheap ethanol and corn syrup are not that.


I guess the original post just switched horses, lol!
https://www.fractracker.org/2025/03/fossil-fuel-subsidies-free-market-myth/

Re: Subtitles to farmer's [Re: Foxpaw] #8480094
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Originally Posted by Foxpaw
Most would be surprised at the havoc government can cause when intervening in the free market. In order that the public has available food at an affordable price, the government has intervened in one way or other since the days of Joseph of Egypt.
Most farmers I know would much rather just have a free market !


Really, so then farmers would be good paying property tax based on valuations, say $125 to $175 an acre. some states they pay no sales tax on machinery, that would have to go. With no price supports many would go broke. Be careful what you wish for.

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Originally Posted by Rat Masterson
Originally Posted by Foxpaw
Most would be surprised at the havoc government can cause when intervening in the free market. In order that the public has available food at an affordable price, the government has intervened in one way or other since the days of Joseph of Egypt.
Most farmers I know would much rather just have a free market !


Really, so then farmers would be good paying property tax based on valuations, say $125 to $175 an acre. some states they pay no sales tax on machinery, that would have to go. With no price supports many would go broke. Be careful what you wish for.


I guess maybe you can't fathom what if the market was truly free how that would equate to parity prices. But there is not much use to even let ones mind wonder or wish for it, because cheap food equals votes.

Re: Subtitles to farmer's [Re: nate] #8480123
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Some of you must never step foot in a grocery store if you think food is cheap. Next it will be, prices would be triple what they are now with no subsidies and maybe that's true, but I don't have to buy it.

Re: Subtitles to farmer's [Re: nate] #8480125
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Most farmers grow livestock feed. Meat is far from cheap


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Re: Subtitles to farmer's [Re: Rat Masterson] #8480128
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Originally Posted by Rat Masterson
Some of you must never step foot in a grocery store if you think food is cheap. Next it will be, prices would be triple what they are now with no subsidies and maybe that's true, but I don't have to buy it.

They pay land owners to not farm 25 million acres of farmland. Subsidies are vote buying.

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Originally Posted by danny clifton
Most farmers grow livestock feed. Meat is far from cheap

This. And after the starch is taken out of corn to make ethanol, the mash remainder still makes good fat cattle feed. Easy to digest.


Life ain't supposed to be easy.
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People/Industries that receive subsidies sure indeed love those subsidies. Ironically many of them would be hard core "capitalists" while sitting around coffee row shooting the breeze with their kin and buddies.

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Originally Posted by rvsask
People/Industries that receive subsidies sure indeed love those subsidies. Ironically many of them would be hard core "capitalists" while sitting around coffee row shooting the breeze with their kin and buddies.

True.

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To look up what a farmer receives for commodity subsidies, go to "ewg.org", and indicate state, county, etc, etc.

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Re: Subtitles to farmer's [Re: Rat Masterson] #8480345
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Yes same old BS about food prices. Don’t see any program for people who like to eat beef. See soybean farmers are going to get a bailout because of cheap prices partly from tariffs. Government has created a monster propping up farmers unfortunately instead of keeping more farmers it has done the exact opposite.


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To have a large society and growth in population one needs a sustainable food source to feed them all. Farmers are subsidized to keep affordable food products and grow the population of the country. Short term, currently there will be a bump in prices but if we can get markets opened to US ag products that we currently do not have due to 50 years of failed economic policy we should see and better pricing. With that said it is hard to see farming sustainability as land prices are going up and up and up. Also that growing population is eating up ag land for developments. Where is the breaking point?

We always had a sign my Father put up in our store in the 70's. "If you complain about farmers, Don't talk with your mouth full"

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