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Testing , Testing ...22-250 AR10 #8479770
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Alrighty finally got ahead of some of the chores so now we can focus on this .
What am I doing ? Bought the cheapest on sale .22-250 upper I could find and we'll gonna see if I can make it work. 22-250 has a pretty well documented history of NOT wanting to work win gas guns . The ones that see to work flawless as a whole are the really nice Gucci custom ones ... But a lot of those use special stuff ...and you looking at $2500-$4000 for some I've seen.... For that price I'd hope they would work flawless but most folks are going with the cheapest they can get so when I got a 10% off coupon code in my email and saw this upper for sale ...well I just had to lol. What I'll do with it ...well if it doesn't work , toss the barrel throw in a .243 or something. The side charging barreled uppers are like $175-200 plus the handguard...egghh . And if it does work... I guess Ill put it to the " kill something with this " list lol
Anyhow $216 shipped
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And here we go with what she looks like.
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So something interesting is I got a lil deal of CLP a note and a manual with his one....I never gotten these from BCA.... Mabey it's just a new policy? Idk
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But other then that see to be the standard BCA treatment no rust or nicks dings ect everything is nice and tight and has a lil layer of some kinda oil.
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Now for the part I know a lot of y'all love ... The bore scope. This is right out the box no cleaning from the muzzle to the chamber
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So definitely rough. But seems they gotta better with their crown at least lol. I have never seen those squiggly deals so idk what those are and the gas hole looks to have a burr so hmmmm lands area. Bit better then what I'm used to from BCA. Okie doke time. To clean a lil.


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Re: Testing , Testing ...22-250 AR10 [Re: Wolfdog91] #8479838
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Ok so gave her a scrubbing. From left to right hopped #9, dry patches JB bore paste, dry patches , hoppes , dry , JB and a wet patch
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And a few shots of the barrel now .... definitely a nasty burr on that gas port
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Still don't know what these squiggles are...never seen that before
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Alrighty now that's don't time for fitment. If you saw my post about my 6.5 creed AR10 then you'll know that AR10's are finicky but the BCA and PSA uppers and lowers can work together....with some fitment.

BTW : I AM NOT A GUNSMITH DO THIS AT YOUR OWN RISK IM NOT RESPONSIBLE IF YOU GET HURT OR MESS UP A WARRANTY


Anyhow this actually is pretty common it seems from reading so yeah... First I'll just try and pop them together because apparently sometimes they will fit without any fitment
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And no dice the back pin just won't go in because the upper receiver has a lil too much meat on the back end and won't let it sit low enough. Last one I did I ground like every thing
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But really you don't need to . Just hold the together in front of the light and you'll see exactly where your getting contact and where you need to grind
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So just packed some paper towel in the recovery and wrapped the rest in a old shirt and went to bubba'inh
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If you've ever done any stock fitment work it's about the same deal. Sand a lil test fit , sand a lil test fit . Took like 10 min total and got a nice fit barely any noticeable movement at all and cam pop the pins out pretty easy


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Re: Testing , Testing ...22-250 AR10 [Re: Wolfdog91] #8479854
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Hey Wolfie... I seen that BCA has the whole complete gun in 22-250 in an AR format. I recently just bought a BCA AR 15 in 22 Arc. Have short it about 20 times shooting and cleaning and shooting and cleaning some more hoping to break in my SS barrel. Functioned great ! So far. I have not shot it yet with a scope to see how accurate it is. I am not doing such a detailed testing as you are. Some people like BCA products and some people cuss them. Thanks for this post...


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Re: Testing , Testing ...22-250 AR10 [Re: Wolfdog91] #8479855
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Re: Testing , Testing ...22-250 AR10 [Re: Wolfdog91] #8479865
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I like the 22-250. People underestimate it.


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Re: Testing , Testing ...22-250 AR10 [Re: Wolfdog91] #8479869
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Don't know if it's been underestimated so much as forgotten. Before the AW ban lifted, 22-250 seemed to be the standard coyote round

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Re: Testing , Testing ...22-250 AR10 [Re: Wolfdog91] #8479951
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Alrighty we got her all put together! Added a light deal of oil to the bcg just a few drops on the body wiped on with a rage and a drop or two the the inside of the BCG.... I don't like just "soaking" and AR ... Know that's some folks deal, not mine .
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Ok now time for the meat and potatoes of what's supposed to be the big ole 600lb gorilla of 22-250 AR10's... FEEDING ISSUES! like I've said before the big big we documented issue with these things is them not feeding .22-250 well . Ole Ed over on Outdoor Edventers in YouTube has a pretty detail video on his experience ... He's a real off the books hot rodder type reloader btw




That and with a lot of posts from places like predator masters and the like , feeding is the main issues.


So initial lil test. Got some factory ammo the other day ...which btw eveyone tells me 30-50 GR is the best for this with its 1:14 twist barrel ...but all I saw mostly was 55gr factory ammo...I mean there was some 45 GR vmax stuff from hornady....but yeaaahhh nah not dropping $50 a box for that mess lol
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As far as mags: seen a few comments about how these could be mag picky and how there's a few companies making custom or modded mags for these ..... Well one place is out of stock and I'm not paying $150 for the other custom one ..... Nahhh. So just gonna use the same ole mag unused with my creedmore
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Ok first up gonna run two rounds from the mag. Will let me test and see how feeding and lock back works and not waste a ton. I tried setting the camera up so y'all could see the round getting picked up buuut didn't work out .
Anyhow mag in rack back and let it run like. AK..no babying .
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No clue if it picked up an round sk went to pull back to check and this sucker is TIGHT ! had to two hand it but I'll chalk that up to needing a lil break in first... Remember....I paid $216 for this....it's gonna be rough and need a lil work .
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But it did pick one up
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Sent it back and
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Aannnd again
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And got a lock back on the last round....
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Ooooook... So other then all the smoke ok the first round.... No real issues ... Not how this is supposed to be going lol

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Re: Testing , Testing ...22-250 AR10 [Re: Wolfdog91] #8479953
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So I thought and remembered that alot where saying if they don't full load a mag they usually had pretty good feeding but a full mag would make round nose dive into the feed ramps..... Ok soooo let's try a full mag.
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This should cause feeding issues . Mag in rack it back the same way aannnd
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Picked it up perfect.... Interesting..decided to pop this one out and give it a look over and the only thing I could see was the male was a lil dinged up...but not sure if that was from grind against the ramps ejecting or act from feeding
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But anyhow shoved that back in and waited for the malfunction but after a few rounds
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Fed just fine ....so .... Idk if I maybe got a lemon or they upgraded there deal or something but idk ... I'm actually slightly bummed because I was honestly expecting to be doing some tear down work by now but...nope... Interesting.
Anyhow my scope ain't getting here till Saturday so might rob one off another rifle and go ahead and do a grouping test tomorrow...no sure yet

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Re: Testing , Testing ...22-250 AR10 [Re: Wolfdog91] #8479956
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O something I forgot to mention. Noticed my case ejection pattern was.....odd . My very first one went right at 1:30-2:00 o clock. The brass is circled in the the red the you can't really see it
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But also , I had some go straight out at 3:00 the some at like 4-5 and then back to 1-2 ?.... This round does have a ton of gas in it soabye that has something to do with it but idk


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Re: Testing , Testing ...22-250 AR10 [Re: Wolfdog91] #8480016
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Wolfie I may buy one. My favorite all winter long truck gun cartridge. If that thing runs good and will reliably shoot 4-5 inch groups at 300, Im telling wife to make her complaints to you when I try one.


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I don't know much about AR's but I bet more recoil from a 22-250 than a 223. Does anyone make stiffer recoil springs? In real life knowing the bolt recoil speed is important. You don't have any way of testing that. But that case holds more powder, so G-force on the buffer is going to be higher. Just a thought.

Re: Testing , Testing ...22-250 AR10 [Re: 70sdiver] #8480286
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Originally Posted by 70sdiver
Can’t wait to how she shoots!


Here we go !

So decided to just rip the scope off my SPR .223 Wylde . Love this lil ARKEN 4-16 that one of my bipod rear bag and yeah
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Same ammo as yesterday same box and everything
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And gotta say .. I REALLY wish this was a fast twist barrel because look at all the dang room I got ! Boy 1:7 twist with like a 77smk .....sweet Lord....
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First deal is to check my lil bore sight at 50yd
And yes I'm using a bipod and rear bag...
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First shot landed low made an adjust and two more stacked but...50yd isnt a good litmus test imo
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Now out to 100yd and move the camera a lil so we can see what it looks like as the BCG picks up a round and...not the best but
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So hers how 100ud worked ran five rounds at the center target no adjustment no Chrono graph or anything . One it shows me what the guns will do with a larger group.... Sorry don't trust three found groups the most ... especially with my shooting lol. But also lets me see about what the zeros shift does from 50-100yd. Then I adjusted a bit to try and hit the center and strapped the Magento on and (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) three at the left then took it off and three three on the right without any adjustments to the zero.

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So with the cheapest factory ammo I saw at bass pro...with what's supposed to be a bit too heavy of a bullet....not .. terrible... Not exactly good ..but usable .

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But this thing is SUCH a nice deal to shoot like the recoil is extremely mild doesn't really jump or anything either .
And the brass .. no crazy dings or anything but definitely have some ejection swipes
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So ....again idk what's up here .. I don't know if I got a perfect one or a lemon in the since I'm not having any issues but ... No pierced primers , no nose diving rounds , no messed up brass , I'm getting last round hold open/ lock back .... Idk


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Also got my dies in and check this out . Ordered the standard three die set I always do and got this sexy lil set up
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Now I will say though....this big heffier is HEAVY
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
Wolfie I may buy one. My favorite all winter long truck gun cartridge. If that thing runs good and will reliably shoot 4-5 inch groups at 300, Im telling wife to make her complaints to you when I try one.

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Like I said I don't know honestly why mine working so well...these supposed to be problem children so I honestly can guarantee yours will work


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Originally Posted by 3togo
I don't know much about AR's but I bet more recoil from a 22-250 than a 223. Does anyone make stiffer recoil springs? In real life knowing the bolt recoil speed is important. You don't have any way of testing that. But that case holds more powder, so G-force on the buffer is going to be higher. Just a thought.

Honestly with this big heavy sucker ... It's barely more then my .223 AR's like I'm serious it's extremely pleasant to shoot... Not like a custom bolt gun or something but ..very nice.
And yes theres a while host of buffer spring ad weights a guy can mess with


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Originally Posted by NebrCatMan
Hey Wolfie... I seen that BCA has the whole complete gun in 22-250 in an AR format. I recently just bought a BCA AR 15 in 22 Arc. Have short it about 20 times shooting and cleaning and shooting and cleaning some more hoping to break in my SS barrel. Functioned great ! So far. I have not shot it yet with a scope to see how accurate it is. I am not doing such a detailed testing as you are. Some people like BCA products and some people cuss them. Thanks for this post...
man I been eying there ARC barrels some hard lately! Love that lil cartridge...or at least the idea of it


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