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Re: Necker 600 and Coon Fleshing Questions? [Re: ] #1069740
12/23/08 02:15 PM
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i just take the back side of my skinning knife and lay it on flush on back side of necker and go back and forth a couple times- it rolls the edge back over--just be carefull and keep it flush with little pressure.

Re: Necker 600 and Coon Fleshing Questions? [Re: ] #1069743
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Yes sharpen the knife..mine is razor sharp..you may only need to steel it to get the edge back on.Are you using it with the bevel up? The spots will melt off and be fine.

Re: Necker 600 and Coon Fleshing Questions? [Re: ] #1069755
12/23/08 02:20 PM
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Get yourselfs a Tonys sharpener Trapper Art carrys them. Orginaly made for sissors they have just the right angle for the necker.


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Re: Necker 600 and Coon Fleshing Questions? [Re: 1st RiverRat] #1069764
12/23/08 02:24 PM
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If your talking about the inside its supposed to be like that for pushing. Just use the outside curve of your knife for the neck area down the back a ways.

Re: Necker 600 and Coon Fleshing Questions? [Re: ] #1069778
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Originally Posted By: xtra income
Yes, beveled side up to get started.


ok,it just sounds like a sharpening job is in order.Once you do more you will get the feel for it.Angle of the knife is also key.

Re: Necker 600 and Coon Fleshing Questions? [Re: ] #1069779
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That's weird. I've only sharpened my outer curve one time, and I've done 75-80 coon with it.

Re: Necker 600 and Coon Fleshing Questions? [Re: Zeak] #1069822
12/23/08 02:54 PM
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Let's keep this going for a while as I can use some advice as well. I have been using my Necker 600 for a decade or more now.
I never touched it for the first say 3 years or so as I heard a lot about not ruining the edge etc. I probably did 250-350 coons with just using a steel and wiping the knife clean.

As I have done more and get more familiar with the knife and have done more coons I started to do some work with the edge.
Here is what I am currently doing.
Periodically on the inner curve or dull edge I very lightly run my CamNu sharpner over the edge, say every couple dozen coons. I also clean the edge after each coon.
On the outer sharper edge I put more pressure on the CamNu sharpener and create a sharper edge which I also clean after each coon. I find this to work quite well.
With this type of edge I only need the sharp edge for the area right behind the ears down to the middle area of the shoulders. I can get the chin and cheek and ear stuff off with the slightly better edge on the dull side.

For those that do correct or sharpen their edges what pressure and or tools are you using?
I might add this is almost totally coons and not beaver, otter etc. I do all grinners with the Necker but my rats and mink I do with a different tool.

Bryce

Re: Necker 600 and Coon Fleshing Questions? [Re: BBLWI 2] #1069850
12/23/08 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted By: BBLWI 2
Let's keep this going for a while as I can use some advice as well. I have been using my Necker 600 for a decade or more now.
I never touched it for the first say 3 years or so as I heard a lot about not ruining the edge etc. I probably did 250-350 coons with just using a steel and wiping the knife clean.

As I have done more and get more familiar with the knife and have done more coons I started to do some work with the edge.
Here is what I am currently doing.
Periodically on the inner curve or dull edge I very lightly run my CamNu sharpner over the edge, say every couple dozen coons. I also clean the edge after each coon.
On the outer sharper edge I put more pressure on the CamNu sharpener and create a sharper edge which I also clean after each coon. I find this to work quite well.
With this type of edge I only need the sharp edge for the area right behind the ears down to the middle area of the shoulders. I can get the chin and cheek and ear stuff off with the slightly better edge on the dull side.

For those that do correct or sharpen their edges what pressure and or tools are you using?
I might add this is almost totally coons and not beaver, otter etc. I do all grinners with the Necker but my rats and mink I do with a different tool.

Bryce


Sounds goods to me.When i resharpen mine i use a file(flat single cut)The only thing i'll add is i also use mine on beaver, rats, mink ,and otter...the rats and mink i use the dull side.

Re: Necker 600 and Coon Fleshing Questions? [Re: ] #1069954
12/23/08 03:37 PM
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What is the grain or grade of your file and how much pressure, angle and how often do you redo the edges?
the reason I do the rats with a single handled fleshing tool is that I get so used to doing the coons that sometimes I just forget and put too much pressure on the two-handled Necker (even dull edge) damage some rats. It works better if I do the coons then the grinners and then some rats as one sort of gets some of the steriods out of the system b4 doing the lighter skinned pelts. LOL

Bryce

Re: Necker 600 and Coon Fleshing Questions? [Re: BBLWI 2] #1069975
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BBLWI 2,i'm not sure grain/grade i will look when im in the shop and add it to this post later, as for pressure it just enough to take metal off. The angle is kept as close to the original as i can and i do this maybe 3-4 times a year. Just remember i flesh thousands of hides a year.

Re: Necker 600 and Coon Fleshing Questions? [Re: ] #1069985
12/23/08 03:52 PM
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http://www.fntpost.com/Products/Knife+Sharpeners/Tony's+Sharpener


If you follow above address you will find the tonys sharpeners. The slot on the left fits the necker just right.

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Re: Necker 600 and Coon Fleshing Questions? [Re: ] #1071491
12/24/08 08:17 AM
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BBLWI 2...I use Nicholson Files...i start with a (medium) then a (finish) file to put the keen edge on.

Re: Necker 600 and Coon Fleshing Questions? [Re: ] #1071770
12/24/08 11:09 AM
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Just keep wiping down the hides and the grease will dry up,I've started putting up coon for the first time this year too.They are the only thing I haven't put up.From the first one to the 10th one I probibly cut off 20 min. Practice make perfect as they say.


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Re: Necker 600 and Coon Fleshing Questions? [Re: ol marshrat] #1072044
12/24/08 01:09 PM
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I use one of those little hand help sharpeners designed to sharpen ice auger blades or scissors. It will only sharpen 1 side of the blade. I only use this a couple times per season. The rest of the time I just swipe the diamond steel a couple times acrost and it good to go for 6-8 beaver or coon. I like mine sharp enough to shave hair off my arm with though.

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