I got my hands on a very small amount of genuine tonquin musk. I don't know how old it is.
I have some imitation tonquin and it does not smell anything like the real thing.
Who supplies the best artificial tonquin ?
Thanks

Wow, the real thing? That's a treasure.
Now all you need is some real ambergris!

ttt

You got a bottle of liquid lure making gold. 1 drop can completely over power some formulas..............There are several commercial lure makers that offer a decent synthetic tonquin musk.

I have two different samples of "authentic" tonquin musk. Both are from very reputable lure formulators who have been in the business for over 40 years.

The crazy thing is that both samples smell differently. Not just a little different, but a lot. I think a lot has to do with how the tonquin pods were handled, the tincturing agent and the quality of the pods.

One sample smells very similar to how my "not" authentic tonquin smells and the other doesn't. The one that doesn't seems to lack the penetrating odor and cinnamony back odor that the one that resembles mine does.

Like most essential oils/ingredients, the source makes all the difference.

The authentic tonquin musk that smells much like mine was given to me by Asa when I visited him this past summer.

I smelled a sample you had in Wisconsin from Asa. A very pleasant smell you kept wanting to return to and get another whiff !

Was that the authentic Tonquin Musk ?

2poor from yr description it sounds like authentic. I got mine from Leo Hoeft years past. Swear it would be a great perfume for the right woman!!!!!!!!

Yes, 2poor, that's the sample I got from Asa on my way to the Wisconsin convention....

The smell of perfume is a great description. I have no doubt I picked up the container at least a half dozen times and took a big whiff.

I do believe Dave Pluegers statement that it could overpower some formula's.

I got a smear of it on my fingers. It wont wash off and i cant keep from smelling it. My wife thinks i am nuts.

i have authentic tonquin , pure quill the oldtimers call it .

and it most definetly can over power , it can even tame down skunk surprizingly .not completely , it mellows it out .

i would hazard to guess that in days long past , it was used by women as perfume.

i've got some authentic sperm whale oil , anyone else ?

as far as who makes good art. tonquin , the best i've ran across
i got from blackie but i don't think its synthetic , i think its tinctured from the real thing .and at $12.50 an oz. , affordable.

he has the best asafoetida i've found as well.made from pure gum.

I took a sniff of a bottle of imitation tonqun that came from Stirling Fur...

...it's listed at 4.00/oz so I assume this would be a tincture...?

The smell was similar to talcum powder...

...how does this compare to the odor of the real thing or the high quality imitation musk that Mr. Dobbins offers?

Has not been any authentic tonquin available for OVER 20 YEARS !


All that hype is fools gold...smells the same. work the same? Please!

I don't know of anyone who has any quantity of authentic tonquin musk. The two samples I have are just tiny amounts. The one sample I have was supposedly acquired in the 50s. I don't know how old the sample is that Asa gave to me.

I'm suspicious when I see tonquin for sale that's 25% authentic, 50% authentic, etc.

Ok, I'll ask. What is tonquin made from? Plant? Animal?

Plant I think.

Asia deer musk.

Asa is old school, him I can see, as his dad was in the lure trade back when tonquin was available. Charlie Dobbins was around back then too.

This 25/ 50% so on . . . ?
It creates a war when you try to convince someone they are being taken by an imitation that looks, smells, etc. like the real thing . . . Go buy your gal a Cubic Zirconium Diamond . . . I mean, she won't care, right?

Artificial Tonquin will catch animals, because, well, it smells good . . . and that's all many trappers care about.
These trappers who say they've got lots of it are the same people who have the original Nelson formula's floating around . . . who can prove it? It will NOT get canines and beaver "aroused" and that is what the real stuff did and what made it SO VALUABLE in a lure!

If there were real tonquin available in any quantity . . . I'd own it!

I can guarantee you if it is selling for $12.50/oz it is not the real deal but imitation.

tony , no one said they had lots of tonquin but i've got enough of real tonquin i doubt you could afford to buy it !

and no its not for sale .

whatever blackies tonquin is, synthectic,art.or tinctured , its the closest i've found to the real deal.

the original owner of the tonquin i have died 40 years ago ,the same person had sperm whale oil, seal oil, and some other rare ingredients.

oh by the way i do have nelsons lure formulas and they do work and catch fur ! are they the originals ? who cares !