Squirrels- " Well, how would YOU do it ? "
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02/13/10 08:02 PM
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The other day, I posted on a thread and got some feedback from a WCO, who stated he would have done it quite another way. So, that got me to thinking that we have a lot of brilliant minds here, who don't always think alike, but can still solve the problem, somewhat differently perhaps, than myself. I came up with the idea to present a problem and see how you, the WCO professional, would solve it, where would you set the traps, etc. Ok, that said, here's the scenario: I receive a call about 9 pm one night from a gentleman, who says "You came as a referral"....(Always good to hear.) He explains that he had a woodpecker peck a hole in his cedar home and now, a squirrel has taken over a woodpecker hole and then made it's way through the drywall in his son's room. (They are 2 and 4 years of age.) To make matter's worst, he has to leave on a plane tomorrow morning and can I come, ASAP. Well tomorrow happens to be ASAP, because we are in a snowstorm! Well, tomorrow, I drive over to find a huge house in a rather posh neighborhood, over a foot of snow on the ground and the hole where the squirrel has entered, is 40 ft up in the air and a tree in the way. The stairs to the 2nd story balcony is covered with snow and ice. Dog tracks everywhere, covering the squirrels tracks and no one home.... Here are a few pictures: Ok, lets hear it... How would you go about it? Hole is on the right side, about 8 planks from the top, along the white trim. If you see a black dot, that's it!
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Re: " Well, how would YOU do it ? "
[Re: Bob Jameson]
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02/13/10 09:36 PM
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Travis Wolford
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I cant see what those soffit vents are but they look like ones I have seen before, are they just window screen? If thats the case then if you put a one way over the hole (if you can access it) and the squirrel happens to be outside when you do it will most likely go on up and sit on the downspout elbow and be back in most likely within seconds. I cant tell from the pic how close that little (looks like a soft maple) tree is to the house but I would suspect its gaining access from either that or the cedar corner (cant say for sure without seeing it). Im afraid I would side with Bob on that one and try the one way inside until the weather is fit (at this rate early April). If those soffit vents are what they look like and if that clap board has much age on it I would want to make sure I had every squirrel around caught before I sealed it up, I have done too many houses just like that to not catch them all. That just looks like a call back waiting to happen if you dont. Also if you can hang a one way when its fit I have taken a squirrel trap and zip tied it on top to catch ones that were outside when I hung the one way. It cuts down on chew ins while the job is going and you have a live squirrel for bait sometimes. Thats the best I can do with the pics. Im sure there are other ways but thats what I would do.
it is not a stupid question if you do not know the answer
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Re: " Well, how would YOU do it ? "
[Re: Travis Wolford]
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02/13/10 09:43 PM
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If that tree is as close to the house as it looks and it is a soft maple the easiest solution to your problem would be fire up the 029 and make it go away. Then take the forty footer off the truck and go to work, after the basketball court ceases to be a hockey rink of course.
it is not a stupid question if you do not know the answer
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Re: " Well, how would YOU do it ? "
[Re: Travis Wolford]
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02/13/10 11:42 PM
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Ron Scheller
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Providing the roads are in good enough condition for towing.... I would back into my storage canopy, hook onto the towable lift, back it onto the BB court, and proceed to install a shelf and traps next to the hole just like any other squirrel job. If it doesn't block the driveway, leave the lift in place for the duration of the job. It would take 10 or 15 minutes a day to SAFELY retrieve the traps, replace, re-bait, and on the road again. After 2 or 3 days of no catches, remove traps, repair hole (or install a squirrel excluder), and schedule for a return visit when conditions are better for a complete, detailed inspection of the structure and possible additional critter-proofing. Don't forget to provide an estimate for tree branch trimming to minimize squirrel activity on the rooftop. Did I mention the towable lift is BY FAR the best investment I ever made for my business? In the past 2 weeks I have used it for a woodpecker job at a huge auto dealership and for a squirrel job on a 2.5 story home.... both jobs performed during snow/ice conditions. Left the ladders at home..... of course this pic is from summer bat work.
Ron Scheller
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Re: " Well, how would YOU do it ? "
[Re: warrior]
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02/13/10 11:51 PM
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Ron Scheller
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I love that kind of cheating! I have a few guys (WCO's) that work within 50 to 75 miles from me, and they will refer these type of jobs to me as they know I have the ability to "cheat" and be safe. Of course I appreciate the referals, but I am even happier to know they will not put themselves in a dangerous situation just for "a few bucks".
Ron Scheller
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Re: " Well, how would YOU do it ? "
[Re: Ron Scheller]
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02/14/10 07:52 AM
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Nicely put, Ron. It's just too bad that some customers think their "problem" is more important than our safety.
Tom Walters
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Re: " Well, how would YOU do it ? "
[Re: BUD25]
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02/14/10 11:18 AM
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Ron, kinda like driving a 8 penny nail with a 10 lb sledge? =) Grey, why cant you put a 12 ft ladder on that deck after you clear a spot? Just reach around.
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Re: " Well, how would YOU do it ? "
[Re: ccary]
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02/14/10 11:40 AM
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These all were really great advice. I do appreciate all the input, as it helps others in this field be able to 'rethink' a situation, when they are faced with one that they aren't sure about. At some point, we all come across something new or different than we are used to. Warrior's advice to 'go right to the source' was interesting, because that would normally be what I would want to do, except that you notice it is way-y-y up there...(about 35-40 ft. up), perhaps the picture are a bit deceiving. If you note the top of a door at the bottom of the picture, that is about 8ft high. The ground is covered with ice and snow, as is the roof, deck and everything else, which makes this dangerous ladder work for a $50. squirrel. Not sure you noticed the stone retainer walls that were build, in the left bottom side of the picture, noting this was 'at the bottom' of a hill. The reason the deck is so high up. This home was built into a hillside with the front touching the road side, the back of the house facing downhill. Because of a small fenced in yard, a 'lift' as Ron pointed out, would NOT be accessible. Great idea on a flat surface though. Warrior mentioned setting a 110 over a hole and I confess I've tried this trick before with mixed results. more often being the trap fired. I'd like to see your version Warrior, of how you MOUNT a 110 kill trap on a flat wood surface. Shelf w/ bracket? I mean, I don't know. The one thing I wouldn't want is to have the woodpecker, who originally made the hole return, because then we have a dead, (or worst a wounded screaming) woodpecker dangling high above the ground for the neighbor to see. Because in a high society neighborhood, you're ALWAYS being watched, don't think you're not! No one mentioned, setting a cage trap by the air conditioning unit, which is where I showed the picture of fresh tracks. Maybe that's fur trapper mentality to set on fresh sign, but it's what I did. I also set a cage trap at the base of the tree, just under the deck, to help with the weather conditions (expecting more snow) because that's where the squirrel was climbing up. There were two ideas that I liked, one the consideration of the deck railing closest to the hole, I believe by Warrior, accessible with some slow, slippery conditions up the icy and snow covered stairs, but doable. The best one I thought was by Bob Jameson and not to 'jump on the Bobby J band wagon' but it was I thought. Considering the ice and snow conditions, and the height of the hole from the outside, IN THESE CONDITIONS a doable option! After setting a few traps outside, the homeowner arrived and I was able to see things from the inside. The hole in the boys bedroom was about the size of a baseball, covered by the homeowner with layers of DUCT TAPE, what else! When I peeled it off, well, there sat the squirrel, at least, I could see part of it. You know , somehow I was figuring just how to reach in there and grab that squirrel that was only inches away...only the hole wasn't big enough, but being a creature of habit, I tried it anyway...Man, that squirrel shot out of that hole, lickety split and was gone in a flash, this almost right at dark. I re-taped the hole shut. Bob's idea to place a nose cone trap there, would have been a good choice! The next morning, I had the squirrel, a pregnant female on top of the railing.
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