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Re: 1.5 coils on coyotes? [Re: coyotekiller] #212673
05/25/07 08:19 PM
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 Originally Posted By: coyotekiller
i did put some piano wire on a couple of my 1.5's but, the levers twisted quite a bit toward the dog. they still work fine though. i would use the 2's for fox, but i hardly ever see one around here, yotes are everywhere though. i had some nice #3 montgermy and victors, about 25, but they were stolen a couple of weeks ago. i'm just trying to make the best of my 2's and 1.5's, i guess i will probably sell some to buy some new or used number 3's.


If ya' have some number 2's and you want to "fix" them get some Victor 1.75 jaws and levers and add new music springs and you will have a decent trap.

Re: 1.5 coils on coyotes? [Re: Cattrax] #212858
05/25/07 10:37 PM
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 Originally Posted By: Cattrax


Black Coyote those are some nice modified traps you got there.


Thanks.Personally I use #3 Bridgers,#3vics and #3montanas fully modified for coyotes.I did the Dukes up for Mchewk for the BMP's.

Re: 1.5 coils on coyotes? [Re: DFronek] #213042
05/26/07 08:21 AM
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Coyotekiller, I want to invite you to our FTA FALL meet in Union ,Ill....I know its a long drive....BUT...you might want consider attending as Blakcoyote will be there putting on a few demos on trap modifications of all things...lol. Bring your traps as he will have his welder along doing demos and modifying up traps and other equipment. pm me for more details...

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Re: 1.5 coils on coyotes? [Re: MChewk] #213062
05/26/07 09:04 AM
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The #2 Monties that you have are far superior to the 1 1/2. I would not intentionally try to catch coyotes in a 1 1/2, but I can see why a fox trapper would pick one up now and then. Just because it can sometimes be done, does not make it a wise thing to try.


Re: 1.5 coils on coyotes? [Re: MChewk] #213065
05/26/07 09:07 AM
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If I was you I wouldn't use 1 1/2s unless that is all you can get. You will miss and edgacate alot of coyotes.


"Oh make no mistake, itís not revenge I'm afteróItís a reckoning":

Re: 1.5 coils on coyotes? [Re: ] #213296
05/26/07 05:15 PM
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If I was to target coyotes with 1 1/2's it would be a Montgomery or Montana. Otherwise I would undergo some heavy modification with any other brand.

On average how much are a dozen of the 1 1/2 Montanas going for John?

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Re: 1.5 coils on coyotes? [Re: ] #213827
05/27/07 08:51 AM
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John, answering someone's question about your product isn't advertising.

Advertising that isn't allowed on here is when someone blatantly advertises what they have for sale when no one asked about it. I think that's called unsolicited - lol.

Its fine to answer questions regarding price, products etc.



Re: 1.5 coils on coyotes? [Re: Paul Dobbins] #213833
05/27/07 08:57 AM
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Hey john, any plans for a double jaw 1 1/2 in the future ?

Re: 1.5 coils on coyotes? [Re: Otter04] #213834
05/27/07 08:58 AM
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Hey Paul, Where's my hat ? lol !

Re: 1.5 coils on coyotes? [Re: Otter04] #213836
05/27/07 09:00 AM
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And yes the 1 1/2 is a small trap for coyotes.It was designed for fox, coon, mink,fisher, and appropiate size animals.

Re: 1.5 coils on coyotes? [Re: Otter04] #213862
05/27/07 09:46 AM
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Thanks. I am fan of the Montgomery, and the Montanas are a good looking trap.


Re: 1.5 coils on coyotes? [Re: k9.] #213914
05/27/07 10:56 AM
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Hi Ya'll
Ive been catchin coyotes in 1 1/2's fully modified for the last 10-12 yr's. yaa small catch area but all ya have to do is make them step where ya need them too. RayA


I dont suffer from Insanity i enjoy every minute of it.

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Re: 1.5 coils on coyotes? [Re: RayA] #213924
05/27/07 11:16 AM
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Anyone remember the old victor double jawed 1 1/2 coil's? I ended up with a half dozen of them from some state auction i was at trying to run up the bid on them and got stuck with them lol.

Anyway while testing traps on grey fox for the bmp's these were included. The two coyote's caught in these type traps both had full pad catch's and the heel pad was stuck under that double jaw loop each time, making it basically impossible to pull out!

I admit before testing these that trap never struck me as a coyote trap! These were standard also, no laminating, bubble tip's, baseplate or anything!

My first coyote was caught in a old northwoods 1.5 coil, standard trap. My old victor 1.5's usually had the jaw's yanked out though. If using them id definately modify to the hilt.

I only run #2's now days. It can be done with 1.5 coil's but it's not for me, lol.


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Re: 1.5 coils on coyotes? [Re: Jtrapper] #213932
05/27/07 11:40 AM
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I prefer the #3 Bridger, I do use some #2 traps where there are cattle. I would not consider buying a round jaw trap, especially a 1.5 trap. T.20

Re: 1.5 coils on coyotes? [Re: ] #214290
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May find this hard to believe John but a buddy of mine ended up holding a dang cow in a modified #2 Bridger one time, lol. He also had lot's of fun releasing it, lol.


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Re: 1.5 coils on coyotes? [Re: Jtrapper] #214307
05/27/07 09:37 PM
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Ive only caught 1 it was on a 30 yr old victor 1.5 on a toe catch

Re: 1.5 coils on coyotes? [Re: HOKIETRAPPER] #214339
05/27/07 10:14 PM
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I quit using number three traps around livestock several years ago after holding a couple yearling cattle. If the trap gets above the hoof on a cow, it will pull down and hang up on the hoof. I have never had any problem catching coyotes in the smaller traps, and never held anything larger than a deer or antelope in a number two bridger.


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Re: 1.5 coils on coyotes? [Re: Slim Pedersen] #214358
05/27/07 10:45 PM
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Never thought about cattle and traps other than the damage a big beef cow might do to the trap. A cow's hoof is wedge shaped being wider at the bottom than the top unlike a deer's straight hoof.
Something to remember for future reference. Thanks

Re: 1.5 coils on coyotes? [Re: coyotekiller] #214892
05/28/07 05:50 PM
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we use 1.5's on coyotes, duke brand with the new style 1.5's modified using our own mods. baseplates using high strength wire instead of a piece of steel weighing down the trap by being as wide as the base and as thick. we use 3/16 rod lamination, 3 swivels and one at the trap with about 6" of chain hooked onto 2 1/2" stakes about 12 to 18" long due to our soil content. here are some pictures of coyotes caught in 1.5's 2 years ago, we only got 4 this last year as i am the owner of A All Animal Control of Tri-State and justinmo works for me and not hardly any time to fur trap, 74 coyotes the year before.





back foot catch on 24 hour check not legal here to check two or three days



Re: 1.5 coils on coyotes? [Re: Jtrapper] #215198
05/28/07 10:11 PM
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Absolutely they will hold yotes if fully built to the hilt. I do it routinely with the 3 dozen I made up. I start with Dukes, baseplate, laminate,use #3 American chain, MB cruch proof swivels,bend the jaws up and bubble,nitelatch,put in a heavy brass pan bolt and most important... #2 music wire springs. I have not educated a single yote....LOL...but have removed loads from the gene pool with these traps.

I use these fully modified 1.5s as a special purpose trap and would consider it on par with 4 coiled Bridger #2s in performance comparisons. To do all the mods is LOTS of work. There are much better time/cost alternatives out there.

My choice of yote trap is the MB 650 O/I laminated and what I normally set where I can use them. Haven't had any problems educating them with these traps either....LOL.

Here's a pic for you.


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