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LURE - Been into the gum asafoetida.... #218952
06/02/07 05:58 PM
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I was sifting some raw gum asafoetida that I had put in the blender and powdered it up getting it ready to do a tincture. Got that sticky stuff on my fingers and I can't keep em outta my nose. Almost as bad as Backbreaker on the fingers - lol.



Re: Been into the gum asafoetida.... [Re: Paul Dobbins] #218954
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HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA Ha What will you use to tincture it ??

Re: Been into the gum asafoetida.... [Re: Paul Dobbins] #218955
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Asafoedita is definitely a long lasting, enduring, penetrating odor that hard to wash off one's hands. I tried the latex gloves when handling strong ingredients and the odor will go right through the latex. I made a batch of Coyote Super Range All Call yesterday while wearing a double pair of latex gloves and I still can't get the odor off my hands. I've tried every soap imaginable, peroxide mixed with baking soda, gasoline, orange degreaser, lighter fluid and rubbed in several deoderants to no avail. My hands still reek of lure and Maria is going around the house going pheewwww. Ace

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Re: Been into the gum asafoetida.... [Re: Asa Lenon] #218960
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LOL - Maria sounds just like Rhonda. Today I've been in the lure shed a lot working with the lures and she put a change of clothes on the deck for me to change into each time before I come into the house. I have to change back into what she calls my "stinky clothes" before going back out. Women's sense of smell and tolerance to those "good" odors is different than men's... I do believe.



Re: Been into the gum asafoetida.... [Re: Asa Lenon] #218961
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try tooth paste


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Re: Been into the gum asafoetida.... [Re: rags57078] #218984
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Rags is right, toothpaste with flouride will work better than anything I ever used----Yes, was handed the toothpaste on top of clothes before I was allowed back into house with first wife, and I am not a lure dealer. lol


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Re: Been into the gum asafoetida.... [Re: Slim Pedersen] #218985
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Actually, I kinda like the smell - lol.



Re: Been into the gum asafoetida.... [Re: Paul Dobbins] #218996
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There is a hand sauve that is referred to as a liquid glove that does a good job of protecting the hands while formulating with out gloves. I cant use gloves working with the gum. It just sticks constantly so I just jump in and get it done. I do use gloves religiously for most other applications.But things still bleed through.

I try to refrain from rubbing anything while working with this material.LOL It will stay with you for some time and everything you eat or smell tastes like asafoetida flavor.

Re: Been into the gum asafoetida.... [Re: Bob Jameson] #219001
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Bob, do you make your own valarian extract?

Fortunately Dave made me a few gallons of it last year, but I'll be out of it by this time next year. He also told me how to do it myself, but his method was different than a tincture, its a heat process.

I was wondering if you tincture, or do it the other way? I was wondering if there's much difference in the product when done.



Re: Been into the gum asafoetida.... [Re: Paul Dobbins] #219006
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You can distill it from the powder form,tincture it or buy it as you know already in the fluid state. I have done both.I have used the straight powder in formulas also.

Not positive that either has a great advantage over the other process when referring to the final result.The older I get the more ways I look to speed up my processes if possible without sacrificing quality.

Maybe Asa has a thought on this.

Re: Been into the gum asafoetida.... [Re: Bob Jameson] #219051
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Re: Been into the gum asafoetida.... [Re: Paul Dobbins] #219058
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Re: Been into the gum asafoetida.... [Re: bad karma] #219061
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Listerine mouthwash is great for removing foul odor's from the hands also, plus cleans up any cut's/scratchs you may have as well.


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Re: Been into the gum asafoetida.... [Re: ] #219086
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is the asafoetida mixed with wheat flower worth using? does it need to be the pure form.


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Re: Been into the gum asafoetida.... [Re: ] #219091
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Bob J & Paul:
I have only used the valerian powder in heavy base formulas that are aged for a year or more before selling. Same with the asafoedita, the powders will permeate the base and release the odor if aged long enough without having to tincture or process into liquid.
Ace
PS- I rubbed Ultrabright toothpaste into my hands for about 5 minutes and they smelled real good. A few minutes later the Coyote Super Range All Call odor was back full force. I tried the Listerine mountwash too but that didn't even phase it for a few minutes.

Re: Been into the gum asafoetida.... [Re: offshoretrash] #219092
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The powder form can be used.You need to determine the amount needed to achieve the level of strength for your formula or tincture volume.Its just not as strong as the gum and gum tincture volume to volume.

You have more inert waste per ounce also in the typical powder form. I used the powder for years before I found a good source for the gum resin asafoetida.

Re: Been into the gum asafoetida.... [Re: Bob Jameson] #219094
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Maybe you just STINK Asa? lmao.


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Re: Been into the gum asafoetida.... [Re: Asa Lenon] #219095
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Offshore asked...is the asafoetida mixed with wheat flower worth using? does it need to be the pure form.

Generally the powder coming from India has been cut with rice but is milder than gum but still an effective lure ingredient for home brewed lures. One just has to compensate the amount used over the more powerful pure gum which is better for commercial amounts of lure.

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Re: Been into the gum asafoetida.... [Re: Asa Lenon] #219100
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J writes...Maybe you just STINK Asa? lmao.

Right! 65 years inside a lure shed sort of permeates one's molecules. People avoid 'ya, dogs love 'ya! LOL! Ace

Re: Been into the gum asafoetida.... [Re: Asa Lenon] #219105
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i have 10 small boxes of asafoetida gum i brought home this time. my assist is supposed to bring me the pure form when i go back this time.


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