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Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #5 [Re: white17] #2287529
12/08/10 12:41 AM
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what are you still doing up??


Originally Posted By: Malukchuk
I'll take wolves over idiots any day.
Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #5 [Re: white17] #2287629
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Does anyone know why trailblasersteve is being a stranger on here? Always liked seeing his pics and stories.

Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #5 [Re: white17] #2287664
12/08/10 02:32 AM
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He doesn't get on the computer much at home and Tman is banned at his work.


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Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #5 [Re: white17] #2287677
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Too bad, needs to get a new job!

Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #5 [Re: white17] #2287689
12/08/10 03:06 AM
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Ha! He has a great job, he just needs a new internet geek!

I made my first check tonight for dump rats. It was cold. -28 windchill and I don't think I was ready for it! I picked up 6 red popsicles. Two of the six were rubbed thanks to that wonderful rain we had. mad


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Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #5 [Re: Kusko] #2287703
12/08/10 03:28 AM
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Originally Posted By: Kusko
Ha! He has a great job, he just needs a new internet geek!

I made my first check tonight for dump rats. It was cold. -28 windchill and I don't think I was ready for it! I picked up 6 red popsicles. Two of the six were rubbed thanks to that wonderful rain we had. mad


lol

Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #5 [Re: white17] #2287706
12/08/10 03:31 AM
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Really, why would they have been rubbed from the rain?


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Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #5 [Re: white17] #2287712
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Freeze thaw. They sit down in the freezing rain, sit up and their guard hairs get pulled out. That's my theory anyways.


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Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #5 [Re: white17] #2287715
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We see that here too. What really bites is when you get a big, fat, fluffy, frocker and his tail looks like a fuzzy rope.


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Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #5 [Re: white17] #2287717
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we had turkeys that used to do that,they were to fat to fly up and roost so they would lay down outside the barn and sleep,then get up in the morning and pull out feathers,by the end of winter they were pretty gross looking.


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Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #5 [Re: white17] #2287720
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Are you still getting rain Kusko? we have been low -20 here for a while now.


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Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #5 [Re: white17] #2287725
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No, we are cold here. I think they rubbed when the temps were right at freezing. My fox were perfect (besides being blue) before that.


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Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #5 [Re: akpawpincher] #2288244
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Originally Posted By: akpawpincher
We see that here too. What really bites is when you get a big, fat, fluffy, frocker and his tail looks like a fuzzy rope.


That would be Mange

Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #5 [Re: white17] #2288316
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I have a question on the intent of one the trapping regs regarding baiting...


It says you can use non salvageable parts of legaly taken game animals as long as they are moved from the kill site. does that mean technically that if you come across a carcass of a caribou or moose that was harvested legally you can not trap near it? How near is ok? How far does it have to be moved? I dont understand the intent of this reg??

Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #5 [Re: white17] #2288355
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how do you know it was legally harvested if YOU did not harvest it??

Did anyone else read the AK trapper mag this month, where it says that prebaiting is illegal and considered either littering or illegal dumping???


Originally Posted By: Malukchuk
I'll take wolves over idiots any day.
Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #5 [Re: white17] #2288388
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So if it's illegally taken, its ok to trap on it??? LOL

Its a hypothetical question...but something I've come across in the past, finding a kill site from hunting season..I know I've heard people talk about finding caribou carcasses and setting it for wolf....I'm just curious about the "intent" of the law, not trying to circumvent it...usually the reason for regs is obvious, this one is not, at least to me.

Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #5 [Re: Pittu] #2288429
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Originally Posted By: Pittu
I have a question on the intent of one the trapping regs regarding baiting...


It says you can use non salvageable parts of legaly taken game animals as long as they are moved from the kill site. does that mean technically that if you come across a carcass of a caribou or moose that was harvested legally you can not trap near it? How near is ok? How far does it have to be moved? I dont understand the intent of this reg??


Lets say you inadvertently snare a moose in a wolf snare. You must of course salvage everything you can but cannot trap closer than 300 feet from it. That's understandable.

Now say you find a dead caribou that died of natural causes (wolf kill, old age,). I would say you could trap right at the site.

You find the gutpile from a legally taken moose. I would think it would be reasonable to place sets 300 feet from that site just as the restriction is on the incidental take of the moose in example one. OR, move the gut pile 300 feet and set right there. Those might not be correct interpretations but I think they are reasonable.

I suspect the reasoning behind the law is so that people aren't shooting big game during winter seasons and using it for a large bait site. They must at least do some work to move the pile before setting


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Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #5 [Re: white17] #2288434
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Appreciate the info White, and seems mostly reasonable on the 300' setback...

BUT.....taking a moose in mid winter would typically be illegal and therefore not covered by the reg... Technically, I guess if you KNEW a moose had been taken illegally, you could set right on it, not that I would recommend that. LOL

Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #5 [Re: white17] #2288436
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No. The moose taken illegally did not die of natural causes so you couldn't set right on that either.

There are some areas of the state that have winter moose seasons so this could become an issue in those areas.

This is all just my guesses at the interpretations.


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Re: The Almighty Alaskan Thread #5 [Re: white17] #2288437
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Oh yea, you are correct...brain fart...

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