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Re: marten traps [Re: akntrpr] #2811951 11/04/11 03:11 PM 11/04/11 03:11 PM
Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 91 Southwestern, AK C Castor Gitter trapper
Castor Gitter trapper C Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 91 Southwestern, AK	Has anyone ever tried using rendered bear fat as a base? Would think one bear would go a long ways for lure that way.

Re: marten traps [Re: akntrpr] #2812050 11/04/11 04:02 PM 11/04/11 04:02 PM
Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 11,826 Armpit, ak D Dirt trapper
Dirt trapper D Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 11,826 Armpit, ak	testing 123 testing 123 Who is John Galt?

Re: marten traps [Re: akntrpr] #2812051 11/04/11 04:03 PM 11/04/11 04:03 PM
Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 11,826 Armpit, ak D Dirt trapper
Dirt trapper D Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 11,826 Armpit, ak	reply 119 this time Who is John Galt?

Re: marten traps [Re: Castor Gitter] #2812075 11/04/11 04:17 PM 11/04/11 04:17 PM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 2,104 user conflictville, Alaska 99X... martenpine trapper
martenpine trapper Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 2,104 user conflictville, Alaska 99X...	Maybe it is just me, but I have tried brown bear fat, and it didn't seem to work all that well as a marten lure, actually I didn't catch any marten on it. Never tried black bear though. Originally Posted By: Castor Gitter Has anyone ever tried using rendered bear fat as a base? Would think one bear would go a long ways for lure that way. When there is shot in the air, there is hope. When in doubt, throttle out! ATA, NTA, NATCA, ITA

Re: marten traps [Re: akntrpr] #2812142 11/04/11 05:01 PM 11/04/11 05:01 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 2,275 Homer, Alaska Family Trapper trapper
Family Trapper trapper Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 2,275 Homer, Alaska	MP did you just use the fat not rendered with nothing in it? Or did you render and add skunk

Re: marten traps [Re: akntrpr] #2812165 11/04/11 05:15 PM 11/04/11 05:15 PM
Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 895 Alaska P Pittu trapper
Pittu trapper P Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 895 Alaska	I used tainted brown bear fat and meat/bones last year. I wasnt impressed compared to grouse or beaver. Granted I didnt have alot of marten on my line last year, but I did have refusals where I rarely do with grouse.

Re: marten traps [Re: Family Trapper] #2812185 11/04/11 05:25 PM 11/04/11 05:25 PM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 2,104 user conflictville, Alaska 99X... martenpine trapper
martenpine trapper Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 2,104 user conflictville, Alaska 99X...	just the fat. Originally Posted By: Family Trapper MP did you just use the fat not rendered with nothing in it? Or did you render and add skunk When there is shot in the air, there is hope. When in doubt, throttle out! ATA, NTA, NATCA, ITA

Re: marten traps [Re: akntrpr] #2812563 11/04/11 09:29 PM 11/04/11 09:29 PM
Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 91 Southwestern, AK C Castor Gitter trapper
Castor Gitter trapper C Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 91 Southwestern, AK	Could it be that the bear being a predator itself might not give off the smell a marten would like as much or make it shy away?

Re: marten traps [Re: akntrpr] #2812764 11/05/11 01:24 AM 11/05/11 01:24 AM
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 1,964 canada, manitoba C countrysmith trapper
countrysmith trapper C Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 1,964 canada, manitoba	i used tainted black bear meat two years ago.. not happy at all.. so then i used bear meat that was not tainted.. still no luck after i took some ducks i had in the freezer and put then in ziplock bags then left them on the warm shop floor for a day and a half.. cut up on site when i was setting traps.. that seemed to work much better for marten and ermine.. if i remember right even got a fisher on that duck meat.. so now i still have six 5 gal pails full of cut up bear meat that i have no good use for and its just taking up freezer space now just a guy who is happy to be able to trap.. for whatever the price is http://www.trapperman.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/2049655/1.html

Re: marten traps [Re: akntrpr] #2812765 11/05/11 01:24 AM 11/05/11 01:24 AM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 2,275 Homer, Alaska Family Trapper trapper
Family Trapper trapper Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 2,275 Homer, Alaska	I would subscribe to that theory having some merit. That is also why I think rendering might be a good idea. I wouldn't eat bear fat but the lard from it makes a great pie crust.

Re: marten traps [Re: akntrpr] #2812767 11/05/11 01:27 AM 11/05/11 01:27 AM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 2,275 Homer, Alaska Family Trapper trapper
Family Trapper trapper Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 2,275 Homer, Alaska	County smith. I would take those buckets out of the freezer. Cover with water in a warm spot and let them rot til nasty. Freeze and then put out as a smelly bait station for fox, coyotes or wolves. The guy on the almighty video had great luck with stinky bear meat on wolves.

Re: marten traps [Re: Family Trapper] #2812768 11/05/11 01:35 AM 11/05/11 01:35 AM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 98 Alaska T Trapalaska trapper
Trapalaska trapper T Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 98 Alaska	Tainted breasted out duck is a great marten bait. I have caught a lot of marten with it. Wish I had more.

Re: marten traps [Re: akntrpr] #2812989 11/05/11 10:20 AM 11/05/11 10:20 AM
Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 91 Southwestern, AK C Castor Gitter trapper
Castor Gitter trapper C Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 91 Southwestern, AK	How about tainted guts? Has anyone ever tried that? If you were able to collect and then use that is? Would think that they would have alot more calling power to them/more smell. Too much work than what it's worth? Just curious. Would think depending on the kill location and circumstances (weather, distance from home/truck, etc..) it could be good, or just alot of hassle maybe..

Re: marten traps [Re: akntrpr] #2813007 11/05/11 10:37 AM 11/05/11 10:37 AM
Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 35,765 McGrath, AK W white17 "General (Mr.Sunshine) Washington"
white17 "General (Mr.Sunshine) Washington" W Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 35,765 McGrath, AK	Guts are pretty hard to keep together unless you freeze them into a wad right away. Also sort of a hassle to use at a set unles you're using a cubby on the ground. If you get a thaw they are going to be a problem. I might try it in a snow hole for fox if I had nothing better. Mean As Nails

Re: marten traps [Re: akntrpr] #2813034 11/05/11 11:19 AM 11/05/11 11:19 AM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 2,275 Homer, Alaska Family Trapper trapper
Family Trapper trapper Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 2,275 Homer, Alaska	When I wasn't so worried about space I always used a smell bait in addition to my reg bait. Which was usually beaver. No lure. Standard was fish meat. Ground no skin unless it was ground. This was tainted and then mixed with glycerin maybe some beaver castor. Very fragrant in cold temps. I imagine you could do the same with guts. Oily fish was better. Guts would need extra oil or glycerin to keep it from freezing. Very pasty. But one more hassle I have done away with that as a good lure in a squeeze bottle and bait

Re: marten traps [Re: countrysmith] #2813118 11/05/11 01:04 PM 11/05/11 01:04 PM
Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 0 manitoba, canada S snostorm@home trapper
snostorm@home trapper S Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 0 manitoba, canada	Originally Posted By: countrysmith i used tainted black bear meat two years ago.. not happy at all.. so then i used bear meat that was not tainted.. still no luck after i took some ducks i had in the freezer and put then in ziplock bags then left them on the warm shop floor for a day and a half.. cut up on site when i was setting traps.. that seemed to work much better for marten and ermine.. if i remember right even got a fisher on that duck meat.. so now i still have six 5 gal pails full of cut up bear meat that i have no good use for and its just taking up freezer space now no I think you caught that fisher off of my dads fish scraps

Re: marten traps [Re: akntrpr] #2813127 11/05/11 01:13 PM 11/05/11 01:13 PM
Joined: Jul 2011 Posts: 38 Central Maine SDAhunt trapper
SDAhunt trapper Joined: Jul 2011 Posts: 38 Central Maine	Hope this hasn't been touched on yet, but if the high temps are getting in the mid to high 40's how long do you thing a marten can hang without getting green? Thanks www.ArmigersGuideService.com

Re: marten traps [Re: akntrpr] #2813246 11/05/11 03:02 PM 11/05/11 03:02 PM
Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 11,826 Armpit, ak D Dirt trapper
Dirt trapper D Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 11,826 Armpit, ak	It depends on how full their bellies are and if it's raining and they get wet they will last longer. I worry more when it is warm and dry than when it is warm and wet. I get worried if it has been longer than three days. This is when temps are in the mid to high thirties. Who is John Galt?

Re: marten traps [Re: akntrpr] #2813280 11/05/11 03:24 PM 11/05/11 03:24 PM
Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 35,765 McGrath, AK W white17 "General (Mr.Sunshine) Washington"
white17 "General (Mr.Sunshine) Washington" W Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 35,765 McGrath, AK	Yeah I've had them hang ten days or so in the high 30's low 40's with no problems. I think foothold traps on poles are better than a conibear type or a ground set. If the critter is suspended, his belly is more exposed to the air than if he curls up in a cubby or instantly expires in a body grip and lays there belly down. Most marten will have an empty or nearly empty gut because they metabolize fats and protiens so rapidly. I've never had one slip or be a problem. Mean As Nails

Re: marten traps [Re: akntrpr] #2813427 11/05/11 04:58 PM 11/05/11 04:58 PM
Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 11,826 Armpit, ak D Dirt trapper
Dirt trapper D Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 11,826 Armpit, ak	I use conibears. On the south side of the Alaska Range we tend to have more Chinooks ( warm spells ), and I have had them taint. But only if they have a full belly. Who is John Galt?

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